This anecdote doesn’t answer my question. Also the CA vehicle code says your turn signal has to be active for 100ft. Says nothing about 5 vs 10 seconds. So if your story is true then that’s an unlawful stop, not a pretext stop, and it’s not applicable in this discussion.
I don't think the critique of police is correct in this case. Agree w/you on risks of intervention. But also don't think police responding to sideshow complaints is the same as police targeting black and brown people for minor traffic violations to look for drugs and weapons.
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Phrasing it like that, it’s apples/oranges. But what about police responding on-going drug dealing complaints in an area mainly populated/frequented by POC? Won’t the resulting stops be primarily POC? Will they still be “targeting” POC in those stops? Are those stops pretextual?
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What about police breaking up sideshows as opposed to other large unsanctioned gatherings when sideshows primarily occur in low-income neighborhoods and neighborhoods mainly populated by POC?
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