It is outrageous that the police stood by and watched a dangerous crime in progress until it turned into an even more serious - lethal - crime. Out. Rage. Us.https://missionlocal.org/2020/09/police-waited-until-fatal-shooting-occured-to-take-action-on-side-show-witnesses-say/ …
The last time it happened to me, the officer pulled alongside me and looked at me. Then fell back. I signaled and turned. He pulled me over and told me I didn’t use my signal long enough, 5 seconds instead of 10. Then asked if I had drugs and told me he needed to search my car.
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He “pretended” to intervene to warn me about the required signal time. His actual reason, I presume, was his suspicion based on how I looked that I might be trafficking drugs.
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It has the same problems as stop and frisk policies. To quote judge Scheindlin (on S&F), “In practice, the policy encourages the targeting of young black and Hispanic men based on their prevalence in local crime complaints. This is a form of racial profiling.”
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This anecdote doesn’t answer my question. Also the CA vehicle code says your turn signal has to be active for 100ft. Says nothing about 5 vs 10 seconds. So if your story is true then that’s an unlawful stop, not a pretext stop, and it’s not applicable in this discussion.
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That incident was in Utah, just outside of Salt Lake City. I took him at his word that I’d violated the law, but not that my violation was the more than a pretext (a pretend reason) for a search.
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