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Your friendly regular reminder that the DUP got just 290,000 votes at last year's General Election but secured 10 seats, while Greens and Lib Dems won 2.9 MILLION votes and 13 seats Westminster's voting system has warped our politics beyond belief and we're all paying for it
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The SNP had 978,000 and they've got 35 seats! Not sure I'd be brave enough to tell them it's unfair though.
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Thankfully they agree it's unfair and needs changinghttps://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15299363.snp-manifesto-will-commit-to-westminster-voting-change/ …
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Yes fair point! Especially since pure proportional representation could leave them with around 20 seats so that's pretty selfless tbh.
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I agree with the sentiment, and it is a deeply flawed and unfair process, but in 2015, UKIP got 3.9 million votes and only secured 1 seat. I'm quite glad that they didn't achieve greater representation in Parliament.
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And id suggest the opporession of those voices and lack of debate in an appropriate forum gave rise to a lot of the sentiment which lead a majority in this country, no matter how slim, into voting for Brexit. We should always have fair representation and win on arguments.
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Spot on. A spectrum of views needs to be represented. The old binary choice of fptp has been demonstrated to be toxic.
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Absolutely. If the UK had a proportional voting system, there would be no Brexit.
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This is astonishing, those same 10 DUP MPs literally hold all power in the UK, it's scandalous, we didn't vote for this party yet our future is in their hands, it's high time we had a radical shakeup of our voting system.
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Of all the Parties we’re beholden to, it has to be this band of sectarian, narrow-minded, illiberal bigots. Quite appropriate for our injured democracy.
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They certainly fit in well with the tories.
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Completely false argument as the DUP only stood in the 18(?) seats in NI. I agree with having a more proportional system but it gets us no nearer having one spouting nonsense like this. Also, more proportional would have meant more UKIP MPs, as well as ones you happen to favour.
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Are you saying votes for parties that stand in fewer seats should be worth more? Why?
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No. But it is idiotic to compare the % of whole UK vote the DUP got with the % of UK seats. Compare % of vote in NI with % of seats there. Nobody with any sense is proposing a UK wide more proportional system, any new system would be regional... Continues.
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So if SNP get half of the vote in Scotland they should get about half of the seats there, not the proportion of their votes spread across the whole UK.
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Yes - AND if they get 5% of votes across the UK they should get 5% of seats...
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Roughly speaking Scotland has 10% of the seats/population. Therefore if the SNP get half the vote in Scotland, they should get half the seats there, or 5% of the total, matching their UK level votes. No reason why this can't work at both nation/region and UK-wide levels
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As it stands SNP are hugely over-represented. 36.9% of the vote share and they have 59.3% of Scottish seats.
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Indeed. It also demonstrates one of FPTP's flaws: it rewards parties that can concentrate their vote, be it in Scotland, Northern Ireland, the home counties or inner cities. Aiming to represent the whole country actively works against you
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