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Jane Orient, MD
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Jane Orient, MD

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aka Doctor Aunt Jane, physician in private practice, general internal medicine; executive director, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

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    1. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 20 Mar 2019

      Jane Orient, MD Retweeted Linda Girgis MD

      Advocate all you want for vaccines. But patients still have the right to choose. And the right to hear those who disagree that all vaccines are effective and safe enough to force on people. Using force discredits the case.https://twitter.com/DrLindaMD/status/1108206936590290945 …

      Jane Orient, MD added,

      Linda Girgis MDVerified account @DrLindaMD
      We need to continue speaking up on the efficacy and safety of vaccine. I've been attacked by #antivaxxers but that won't stop me from telling the truth. Lives are on the line. #VaccinesWork https://twitter.com/kidoctr/status/1108011830289616896 …
      26 replies 7 retweets 18 likes
    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient

      Of course, let me just let @DrLindaMD know that I've been trying to get a simple answer to a simple question from Dr. Orient for days. The question? Which childhood vaccines does she consider safe and effective and why? She's been dodging the question with rants about freedom.

      2 replies 5 retweets 57 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @jorient @DrLindaMD

      It can't be that Dr. Orient doesn't consider any vaccine to be safe and effective (because she's an antivaxer), could it? Perish the thought! 🤦‍♂️

      2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    4. Linda Girgis MD‏Verified account @DrLindaMD 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @jorient

      Great questions! If any antivaxxer has any real science, I am willing to listen to it. But, there is none.

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    5. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @DrLindaMD @gorskon

      There is plenty of evidence of vaccine adverse effects. Isn't that real science? And does absence of evidence from safety trials that have not been done= evidence of absence--firm enough to justify suspension of need for consent? The damaged kids are real.

      7 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

      What would be these "safety trials" that haven't been done?

      1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
    7. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @DrLindaMD

      Again, long-term randomized prospective trials with an unvaccinated control group. The recent touted Danish trial doesn't meet those criteria. CDC stonewalled FOIA requests for safety trials on hep b in newborns

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

      Such a trial design would be breathtakingly unethical, because leaving a control group unvaccinated and therefore vulnerable to deadly vaccine-preventable diseases would massively violate the Nuremberg Code and the Declaration of Helsinki.

      3 replies 1 retweet 24 likes
      Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @DrLindaMD

      So mass immunization without adequate safety testing is ok? And the informed consent in Nuremberg code does not apply to vaccines? And measles, mumps, and chickenpox are "deadly diseases"?

      2:11 PM - 21 Mar 2019
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

          Epidemiological studies ARE adequate safety testing once the original RCTs for each new vaccine are completed, particularly when they involve millions of subjects.

          3 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
        3. Alane Callahan‏ @AlaneFarmer4 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @jorient @DrLindaMD

          She is the executive director of some goofball anti Medicare group. What a sham organization. Don't give her air.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @gorskon @DrLindaMD

          Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️ Retweeted Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️

          Jane, I don't know you but recognize the tactics used by propagandists. This one has you in his cross hairs, and will continue. They don't like when the tables are turned. Questioning them earns a block. https://twitter.com/kenjaques/status/1045047271417688064?s=20 … https://twitter.com/kenjaques/status/1052572429359280129?s=20 …https://twitter.com/kenjaques/status/1054329223815618560?s=20 …

          Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️ added,

          Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️ @kenjaques
          Replying to @gorskon
          Yet theatrical placebo (your words) often works. Imagine if the goal was patient health. cc: @JGjanegreen Embracing the Placebo Effect in Health Care: One Patient’s View http://www.myhealthycommunity.ca/blogs/entry/Embracing-the-Placebo-Effect-in-Health-Care-One-Patient-s-View …
          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @kenjaques @jorient and

          You owe him nothing, including your time. They're like school yard bullies. Don't be intimidated by their following or their ego. Probably worth a block, then he'll call you a coward. Hey, I called him a coward when he blocked me for my civil responses ... that he didn't like.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Jonathan Howard‏ @JHowardBrainMD 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @gorskon @DrLindaMD

          Glad I have this meme so handy.pic.twitter.com/vbBnEC14wL

          1 reply 9 retweets 22 likes
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        2. Jason 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑮𝒆𝒓𝒎 𝑮𝒖𝒚 Tetro‏Verified account @JATetro 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @gorskon @DrLindaMD

          Curious...what do you think about post market surveillance? I appreciate it is not what you want specifically but would this not offer translational evidence?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Pʜɪʟ Hᴀʀᴇ | λ³...?‏ @mrlepus 23 Mar 2019
          Replying to @JATetro @jorient and

          Is this not the intention behind VAERS?

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        1. JoeWV‏ @JOEWV 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @gorskon @DrLindaMD

          Feel free to gather among all of your anti-vax allies enough people who are willing to deliberately expose their children with diphtheria, tetanus, or meningitis to do this test. When you can find a couple hundred of these volunteers, get back to us.

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        2. Jeffrey Shallit‏ @shallit43 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @jorient @gorskon @DrLindaMD

          2.6 million people died of measles in 1980. Yes, it's a deadly disease. The fact that @jorient doesn't know this means her medical opinion should not be relied upon.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Linda Girgis MD‏Verified account @DrLindaMD 21 Mar 2019
          Replying to @shallit43 @jorient @gorskon

          People die of chickenpox as well. Not most of them true. But when it's your child, one is enough.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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