Beautifully said Jordan. I have always envied the Greek Golden age. It angers me how a small nation without the privilege we are spoilt with today was able to accomplish something unmatched till this day. We are sleep walking into conformity.
You shouldn't be "proud" of your culture: you should be honored by the privilege of partaking in it, and grateful for its existence, despite your inadequacy. That is not at all the same thing.https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/935377804136349696 …
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Betcha the Greeks were proud of being Greek in their Golden Age.
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It is a limitation of language. People often say "proud" but often just mean "happy about."
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Eh, I don't see it that way. Saying you're proud of your culture says you believe the values it espouses are worthy of being looked up to. 1/
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If you're proud to be part of a culture it means you feel that you have the same values that you see as your culture positively espousing and that it is something to feel good about. Culture develops from the ground up, so you are helping to make it great.
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The pride comes from the knowledge that one is contributing to the legacy and the future of said culture.
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I respect you greatly, sir & greatly enjoy listening to your lectures, but on this, I disagree. For me, honoring my ancestors and the culture they created is a kind of pride. We are all ancestors in training & our pride is our acknowledgement of that responsibility.
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If our great-grandparents built a good culture specifically so their future descendants could feel proud of it, we'd be weirdly ungrateful not to feel pride in their legacy.
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It seems to me that the concept of pride isn't a very clear concept and that it often really refers to a kind of solidarity or comfort one enjoys within their in-group--culture in this case.
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Maybe. Or maybe he's just positing a hyper individualistic concept of 'legitimate pride' that had little relation to the lived, transgenerational psychology of pride rooted in family and tradition.
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I think pride in the past can cause people to behave better because it can cause them to try to live up to ideals exemplified by the best of those who came before them. It depends on what and who of the past people choose to or are taught to take pride in.
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