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Right. But that's comparatively uncommon, compared to the involvement of men married to the mother of their children. And "comparatively uncommon" is what counts in a discussion of desirable social norms, not honorable exceptions.https://twitter.com/svartsven/status/1375689275086360584 …
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Well said, and my children, the product of a father and mother household, will have a statistical advantage over the child who depends on the father being voluntarily involved. I make no apologies for this, it’s just the way the world is.
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I feel the same. Unapologetically present. We get what we put in
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I would say at least in a serious relationship would be a big improvement in a lot of cases
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What are the examples of honourable exceptions in social norms
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ouch. that's a naturalistic fallacy. something being 'the norm' does not mean that it is desirable.
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Exactly. I’ve never been away from my children for one single day of their life. I hope to keep it that way. The definition of “Involvement” is subjective. But more involvement is undeniably better
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what counts in "in a discussion of desirable social norms" is appeasing the arbitrary judgment of moral scolding from social conservatives, we know.
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There's no 'judgment' involved in what he's saying. He's stating a fact which, in judging to be offensive to your sensibilities, you then scold him for.
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