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    Jordan B Peterson‏Verified account @jordanbpeterson 24 Dec 2018

    Jordan B Peterson Retweeted Nassim Nicholas Taleb

    No. Conscientiousness is more likely to select "paper shufflers." And sometimes papers need to be properly shuffled. You're not really denying the existence of psychometric intelligence, are you? What do you propose as a replacement?https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1076845397795065856 …

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    Nassim Nicholas TalebVerified account @nntaleb
    "IQ" THREAD "IQ" measures an inferior form of intelligence, stripped of 2nd order effects, meant to select paper shufflers, obedient IYIs. 1- When someone asks you a question in REAL LIFE, you focus first on "WHY is he asking me that?", which slows down. (Fat Tony vs Dr John)
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    160 replies 239 retweets 1,718 likes
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      2. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @jordanbpeterson

        Peterson I said psycho”metrics is about a nonlinear pseudometric that shows mostly how dumb someone is. Try another question & make it “intelligent”.

        104 replies 84 retweets 595 likes
      3. NIDHAL SELMI - نضال السالمي‏ @imleslahdin 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @nntaleb @jordanbpeterson

        Learn from engineering and start versioning these metrics like we do software, network protocols etc ? ... it's a technical tool ... We need IQ 2.0 ... rename the whole thing (call it Standard Psychometric 100) and stop throwing this metric around like the end all be all measure.

        2 replies 2 retweets 22 likes
      4. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @imleslahdin @jordanbpeterson

        Metrics in engineering are metrics. Psychology is BS. Not a single psychologist thought of redefining correlation when it is state dependent.

        11 replies 11 retweets 87 likes
      5. Josh Hochschild‏ @JoshHochschild 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @nntaleb @imleslahdin @jordanbpeterson

        *Philosophical* psychology is not BS. Plato is Lindy. (Aquinas too.)

        3 replies 5 retweets 23 likes
      6. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @JoshHochschild @imleslahdin @jordanbpeterson

        I agree. Bring it back to philosophy. Because it is not science by any yardstick, 99% closer to pseudoscience.

        3 replies 7 retweets 62 likes
      7. John Mauer‏ @redforged42 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @nntaleb @JoshHochschild and

        Some metrics are created to reduce the dimensions of the situation to foster understanding, but frequently without acknowledging the increase in uncertainty because the measurement process does not change.

        2 replies 4 retweets 52 likes
      8. Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account @nntaleb 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @redforged42 @JoshHochschild and

        John, refreshing to have a physicist. The rule of thumb: if a metric explains less than 1- x% of the variance, it is not a metric. In physics the x can be as low as 10^14. In engineering, often <10^5. In psychology often >75% of the variations come from variance.

        10 replies 29 retweets 174 likes
      9. John Mauer‏ @redforged42 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @nntaleb @JoshHochschild and

        Presuming that variance of metric: physics as uncertainty principle, engineering as six sigma Gaussian, with psychology as folding of unknown distributions. Imagine a multidimensional distribution as having a Pareto component, and folding it into a Gaussian with a binomial test?

        2 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
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      2. Jay Cross‏ @jaycrosstweets 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @jordanbpeterson

        Why is a replacement necessary at all? I don’t think he’s saying “intelligence doesn’t exist.” He’s saying IQ is a tiny, narrow peep-hole that only illuminates the ability to solve pre-packaged problems supplied by others.

        6 replies 2 retweets 63 likes
      3. Garett Jones  🏛️‏Verified account @GarettJones 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @jaycrosstweets @kikiphillip @jordanbpeterson

        No real evidence exists that IQ is a "tiny, narrow peep-hole." IQ explains a third of wage differences, the military turns down willing job applicants with low-ish scores, it predicts EQ & predicts job success much better than EQ. Oh, and higher IQ pairs are more cooperative.

        4 replies 12 retweets 61 likes
      4. nadine‏ @kikiphillip 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @GarettJones @jaycrosstweets @jordanbpeterson

        do you have the info on cooperation?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Garett Jones  🏛️‏Verified account @GarettJones 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @kikiphillip @jaycrosstweets @jordanbpeterson

        Chapters 5 & 6 of my book Hive Mind are the best resource showing that higher group IQ causes more cooperation; my experimental paper with Omar & Jaap is one piece of the evidence: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=10568748376744794714&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&sciodt=0,5 …

        2 replies 10 retweets 27 likes
      6. nadine‏ @kikiphillip 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @GarettJones @jaycrosstweets @jordanbpeterson

        openness being important, what does it mean that individual IQ doesn’t predict cooperation?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Garett Jones  🏛️‏Verified account @GarettJones 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @kikiphillip @jaycrosstweets @jordanbpeterson

        It means that when higher IQ players were matched with the average person, the high IQ player wasn't especially nice. High IQ people aren't doormats; they're not just generally nice. But they're apparently good at figuring out when they're with a person who thinks "Win-Win"pic.twitter.com/ODYJMD7ZIM

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Garett Jones  🏛️‏Verified account @GarettJones 25 Dec 2018
        Replying to @GarettJones

        I have an analogy in the introduction to Hive Mind, the study at Vanderbilt: https://www.sup.org/books/extra/?id=23082&i=Introduction.html …pic.twitter.com/Xcy5VfBTj4

        0 replies 3 retweets 10 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Liam Converse‏ @LiamConverse 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @jordanbpeterson

        We need to get the two of you in the same room

        2 replies 0 retweets 71 likes
      3. SUBSCRIBE 2 PEWDIEPIE/SE INSCREVA NO PEWDIEPIE 🇳🇱‏ @SeinfelDylan 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @LiamConverse @jordanbpeterson

        I'd pay to see that

        1 reply 0 retweets 38 likes
      4. EOSapps‏ @eos_apps 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @SeinfelDylan @LiamConverse @jordanbpeterson

        On Joe Rogan - @joerogan make it happen

        0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
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      2. Rob Henderson‏ @robkhenderson 24 Dec 2018
        Replying to @jordanbpeterson

        Ppl saying this IQ debate is the greatest crossover event since Infinity War

        2 replies 3 retweets 120 likes
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