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@jony_levin

Digital currency entrepreneur bringing transparency, disintermediation and access to financial services. Co-founder @chainalysis

Joined October 2009
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jonathan levin ‏@jony_levin 26 Mar 2015

Important reading for US #bitcoin people on problems with intangible property and UCC http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/03/24/2122678/bitcoins-lien-problem/ … @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq

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    1. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 26 Mar 2015

      @jony_levin @SHodyEsq always love a good UCC conspiracy theory :) @epaymentslawyer has pushing this argument for years now...

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    3. jonathan levin ‏@jony_levin 27 Mar 2015

      @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer is there another counter argument apart from the Perkins suggestion of a trust company ?

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    5. Jon Matonis ‏@jonmatonis 27 Mar 2015

      @jony_levin @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer Counter argument is "deniability of ownership" enforced via privacy-enhancing protocols

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    7. Justus Ranvier ‏@JustusRanvier 27 Mar 2015

      @jonmatonis @jony_levin @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer Other solution: Only do business across UCC jurisdictional boundary.

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    9. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 27 Mar 2015

      @JustusRanvier @jonmatonis @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer you don’t need solution(s) for non-problems :) nemo dat is a red herring

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    10. jonathan levin ‏@jony_levin 27 Mar 2015

      @virtuallylaw @JustusRanvier @jonmatonis @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer #bitcoin intangible property? If so doesn’t nemo dat follow?#notalawyer

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    11. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 27 Mar 2015

      @jony_levin @JustusRanvier @jonmatonis @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer nemo dat not relevant, true owner of BTC is bearer of private key

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    13. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 27 Mar 2015

      @jony_levin @JustusRanvier @jonmatonis @SHodyEsq @epaymentslawyer @milescowan here is your Nemo Dat fact pattern: https://gist.github.com/pmlaw/831f7ea98e3da5c07bab …

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    1. Miles Cowan ‏@milescowan 27 Mar 2015

      @jony_levin @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq this issue may come up in other jurisdictions as well @bramanathan

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    2. Stuart Hoegner ‏@bitcoinlawyer 27 Mar 2015

      @milescowan @jony_levin @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq @bramanathan It absolutely does come up in other jurisdictions.

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    3. Miles Cowan ‏@milescowan 27 Mar 2015

      @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq @bramanathan this will make for some conflict of laws analysis!

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    5. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 27 Mar 2015

      @milescowan @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @bramanathan things get real when you enter into an agreement (not Smart K) encumbering btc

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    7. Miles Cowan ‏@milescowan 27 Mar 2015

      @virtuallylaw @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @bramanathan the chance that that hasn't already happened has got to be close to nil

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    9. Miles Cowan ‏@milescowan 27 Mar 2015

      @virtuallylaw @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @bramanathan blanket liens are extremely common in huge variety of financing arrangementa

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    11. Patrick Murck ‏@virtuallylaw 27 Mar 2015

      @milescowan @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @bramanathan reversing trxs on the blockchain is not a valid remedy, courts are pragmatic

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    12. Miles Cowan ‏@milescowan 27 Mar 2015

      @virtuallylaw @bitcoinlawyer @jony_levin @SHodyEsq @bramanathan reversing txs entirely unrelated to valid claim as a secured party

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  1. jim rissier ‏@jm111t 27 Mar 2015

    @jony_levin @jonmatonis interesting however 1 year later btc is accepted by payment platforms & Bankinter will work w/ #bitcoin and fiat!

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  2. FitsYourProfile ‏@FitsYourProfile 27 Mar 2015

    “@jony_levin: Important read US #bitcoin people on problems with intangible property & #UCC http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/03/24/2122678/bitcoins-lien-problem/ … @virtuallylaw @SHodyEsq”

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