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Jon Stokes

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Ars Technica founder, followed by a brief stint at WIRED. Writing in various outlets about tech, guns, money, outdoors. Currently: http://ThePrepared.com 

Austin, TX
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    1. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

      Jon Stokes Retweeted ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ

      This is interesting. I'm often told that having a gun in my house, no matter how safely stored, magically increases my family's odds of dying by gun, but I'm never told that having a bike in my garage similarly increases their odds of dying on a bike.https://twitter.com/bakermind/status/1078762129862217730 …

      Jon Stokes added,

      ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ @bakermind
      Replying to @DrStran81139676 @jonst0kes
      Usually the bike doesn't kill anybody either - also when unsupervised. The point is that owning a gun increases your death risk from firearms, just as owning a bike increases your risk of death from getting hit by a car.
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      Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

      I think most people (this guy obviously excepted) understand the logic "owning X increases your risk of dying by X no matter where the X is kept or what u do with it" is dumb for everything but guns, which they take to passively emanate a penumbra of statistically provable danger

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        2. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          Jon Stokes Retweeted ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ

          Also, while I'm at it, this guy also says something here that is false but commonly held. There is good reason to believe that most defensive gun uses go unreported b/c the gun is never fired, i.e. the gun has a common, nonviolent, de-escalatory use.https://twitter.com/bakermind/status/1077263668713185280 …

          Jon Stokes added,

          ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ @bakermind
          Replying to @jonst0kes
          bike has a legit purpose other than death gun has no purpose than to kill. and don't focus on active shooters only .... reducing gun culture reduces risk of suicide, homicide, and accidental death due to firearms
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        3. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          I grew up in a gun culture and anecdotally I can report hearing many many stories of a gun being displayed to end an escalating conflict, & of course no cops are called and the incidents don't show up as a stat anywhere and remain anecdotal. Tough to know how common this truly is

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        4. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          But my point is that "guns have no purpose other than to kill" is patently false. The last time I was back in Louisiana getting a tire fixed, a guy in there was telling us about his granddaughter being a victim of road rage & discretely displaying a pistol to end the incident.

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        5. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          These stories are a dime a dozen, but there is no way to quantify them.

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        6. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          Jon Stokes Retweeted ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ

          This is true, but even this commonly cited fact isn't quite right. Guns don't magically make people suicidal. They just increase the risk of suicidal people succeeding at it.https://twitter.com/bakermind/status/1078765489382281216 …

          Jon Stokes added,

          ᴄ. ᴀ. ʙᴀᴋᴇʀ @bakermind
          Replying to @jonst0kes
          Most significant risk of firearm death is by suicide. If you own a firearm, your risk of death by firearm suicide is increased, however infinitesimally. I do not believe a person who can predict their future behavior with 100% accuracy....
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        7. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          Jon Stokes Retweeted Max Kennerly

          I don't see this. I think a kitchen knife or chainsaw or some other thing that requires a measure of intentionality to cause harm is a better analog than flammable fabrics or something that could passively enter into a dangerous state.https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1078765884624261120 …

          Jon Stokes added,

          Max KennerlyVerified account @MaxKennerly
          Replying to @jonst0kes
          I don't see the bike one. But I do see a penumbra of danger for guns, and, similarly, say, flammable chemicals and furniture that isn't flame-retardant. The point is that someone else's abuse or misuse of the object can cause a hazard. (The extent of this is another matter.)
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        8. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          Re: suicide & guns, I do want to acknowledge that the best evidence for any real impact of the AU gun ban is in the death by suicide numbers there. I've done many threads on that ban & what it does & doesn't tell us, but there does seem to be a modest drop in suicide fatalities.

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        9. Jon Stokes‏ @jonst0kes 28 Dec 2018

          I think it's probably true that not everyone who kills themselves with a gun would replace & succeed if a gun weren't available. Combine the gun's effectiveness w/ fact that 90% of failed suicide attempts don't repeat, & u can see where there's probably a real impact.

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        1. Peter Lockhart‏ @ThPeterLockhart 28 Dec 2018
          Replying to @jonst0kes

          Look at the number of people killed by dogs or horses or bees. Look at the number of people killed by cigarettes or Junk Food. Compared to these things - guns are insignificant.

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        1. Sean David O'Connor‏ @alphacheez 28 Dec 2018
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          I think of it in terms of the activation energy hill. With a gun, the amount of effort to go from "safely stored" to death is relatively small compared to a lot of things

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        1. Max Kennerly‏Verified account @MaxKennerly 28 Dec 2018
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          I don't see the bike one. But I do see a penumbra of danger for guns, and, similarly, say, flammable chemicals and furniture that isn't flame-retardant. The point is that someone else's abuse or misuse of the object can cause a hazard. (The extent of this is another matter.)

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