The lesson should have been “make sure you understand the basics of statistics before attempting to report on statistical findings.” The media’s desire to make the election as a whole a horserace is ridiculous and totally unsupported by (mountains of) data.
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The media's desire to make the election a horserace is totally supported by mountains of television rating data.
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Truer words have never been spoken
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Or, stop covering the horse race aspects and try to delineate the issues: GOP has made no bones about taking away Healthcare and pre-existing condition protections, now there lying. First tax cut priority was billionaires, now they’re lying. Cover the lies, not the polls.
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You misspelled “make a point to learn the basics of statistical inference”.
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Seriously? We should stop observing the situation, collecting data, analysing it, and reporting findings..... because on one occasion our analysis was inaccurate? GMAFB. I’d rather we just refined our processes to be more accurate if that’s ok with you.
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No, use the data, not fear and spin/pressure from GOP strategists. All the data points exactly where it's been pointing. Minor deviations, and yet reporting has overblown it, seemingly into a horserace when it's not.
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I see on your twitter feed that you believe Khashoggi was murdered in Turkey. Is this just your spin on the data collected? Or is it a reasonable conclusion based on reasonable analysis? I suggest the lattter. Don’t give me data. Experts CAN provide analysis AND predictions.
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Not quite sure where you’re going with this. I’m saying use the data, so I’m agreeing with you. But there is no data showing GOP on verge of keeping House. Much of that is spin, hedging by reporters.
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And yes, GOP pollsters/analysts cay have the opinion — analysis — that they think this is true, but reporters should report that there’s little to data backing that up instead of being spun/succumbing to fear and making it appear as if it’s a horserace when it’s not.
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I am totally with you in that. I want their expert opinion as journalists, referring to data from reliable sources, being clear on the accuracy of their predictions. And if it’s close.... say so. If it’s not.... say so. And sometimes they’ll be wrong. I can live with that.
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Amen. More discussion of the factors that could impact the outcome either way and how they are changing, less attempts to synthesize all of that into a prediction (esp when the prediction is more of a bet hedging).
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Agree. Hard work and persistence. Stay focused on the goal. I don’t understand polls anyway so they don’t mean much.
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It’s okay to predict. What’s not okay is the gleeful, slavering approach to this as an entertaining horserace. By now you guys should realize that for any remotely vulnerable demographic, this is deadly serious stuff.
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I propose a variation on that lesson: stop focusing on the horse race altogether, stop testing every story as a "who is this good for" and just start focusing on substance. Help voters understand what the candidates & party's positions are on the issues
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Lesson #2 was: plainly & clearly report on Trump/GOP lies. WaPo has got it but NYT still dancing around it for some reason...
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This is the wrong lesson? Not the fact that there are actual issues to cover and not just polls, and it might be better to actually dig deeper?
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