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Deputy Washington Editor, The New York Times, author, (((Semitism))) - Being Jewish in the Age of Trump, and No. 4 Imperial Lane

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    (((JonathanWeisman)))‏Verified account @jonathanweisman 23 Oct 2018
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    I feel like political journalism learned the wrong lesson in 2016. We’re bending over backwards to suggest that just maybe conventional wisdom is wrong and Republicans will hold Congress when I think the lesson of 2016 should be simpler: stop predicting either way.

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      2. Bobson Dugnutt‏ @dr_spaceman138 23 Oct 2018
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        The lesson should have been “make sure you understand the basics of statistics before attempting to report on statistical findings.” The media’s desire to make the election as a whole a horserace is ridiculous and totally unsupported by (mountains of) data.

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      3. Aaron VanDevender 🔬‏ @APVanDevender 23 Oct 2018
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        The media's desire to make the election a horserace is totally supported by mountains of television rating data.

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      4. Bobson Dugnutt‏ @dr_spaceman138 23 Oct 2018
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        Truer words have never been spoken

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      1. Not Your Middle Aged White Dude‏ @MattyK617 23 Oct 2018
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        Or, stop covering the horse race aspects and try to delineate the issues: GOP has made no bones about taking away Healthcare and pre-existing condition protections, now there lying. First tax cut priority was billionaires, now they’re lying. Cover the lies, not the polls.

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      2. Ryan McCullough‏ @McCullough_1980 23 Oct 2018
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        You misspelled “make a point to learn the basics of statistical inference”.

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      2. Laurie A‏ @LaurieA1770 23 Oct 2018
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        Seriously? We should stop observing the situation, collecting data, analysing it, and reporting findings..... because on one occasion our analysis was inaccurate? GMAFB. I’d rather we just refined our processes to be more accurate if that’s ok with you.

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      3. Michelangelo Signorile‏Verified account @MSignorile 23 Oct 2018
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        No, use the data, not fear and spin/pressure from GOP strategists. All the data points exactly where it's been pointing. Minor deviations, and yet reporting has overblown it, seemingly into a horserace when it's not.

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      4. Laurie A‏ @LaurieA1770 23 Oct 2018
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        I see on your twitter feed that you believe Khashoggi was murdered in Turkey. Is this just your spin on the data collected? Or is it a reasonable conclusion based on reasonable analysis? I suggest the lattter. Don’t give me data. Experts CAN provide analysis AND predictions.

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      5. Michelangelo Signorile‏Verified account @MSignorile 23 Oct 2018
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        Not quite sure where you’re going with this. I’m saying use the data, so I’m agreeing with you. But there is no data showing GOP on verge of keeping House. Much of that is spin, hedging by reporters.

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      6. Michelangelo Signorile‏Verified account @MSignorile 23 Oct 2018
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        And yes, GOP pollsters/analysts cay have the opinion — analysis — that they think this is true, but reporters should report that there’s little to data backing that up instead of being spun/succumbing to fear and making it appear as if it’s a horserace when it’s not.

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      7. Laurie A‏ @LaurieA1770 23 Oct 2018
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        I am totally with you in that. I want their expert opinion as journalists, referring to data from reliable sources, being clear on the accuracy of their predictions. And if it’s close.... say so. If it’s not.... say so. And sometimes they’ll be wrong. I can live with that.

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      2. Tom Bonier‏Verified account @tbonier 23 Oct 2018
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        Amen. More discussion of the factors that could impact the outcome either way and how they are changing, less attempts to synthesize all of that into a prediction (esp when the prediction is more of a bet hedging).

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      1. Ali E‏ @ali_easterling 23 Oct 2018
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        Agree. Hard work and persistence. Stay focused on the goal. I don’t understand polls anyway so they don’t mean much.

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      1. prays w/faint damns‏ @Cy_Lanced 23 Oct 2018
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        It’s okay to predict. What’s not okay is the gleeful, slavering approach to this as an entertaining horserace. By now you guys should realize that for any remotely vulnerable demographic, this is deadly serious stuff.

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      1. DC Deciphered‏ @DCdeciphered 23 Oct 2018
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        I propose a variation on that lesson: stop focusing on the horse race altogether, stop testing every story as a "who is this good for" and just start focusing on substance. Help voters understand what the candidates & party's positions are on the issues

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      1. Sappho Faires‏ @SFinEville 23 Oct 2018
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        Lesson #2 was: plainly & clearly report on Trump/GOP lies. WaPo has got it but NYT still dancing around it for some reason...

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      1. Ofer Ron‏ @oferron 23 Oct 2018
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        This is the wrong lesson? Not the fact that there are actual issues to cover and not just polls, and it might be better to actually dig deeper?

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