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    Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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    What happens when you launch a fresh install of Firefox? I was curious, so I did so with version 68.0.2, and monitored my network activity. Here's what I learned…pic.twitter.com/kTglccO7Qy

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      2. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Note, this doesn't involve any interaction beyond opening the browser and waiting a few minutes. What I found were dozens of requests, which loaded nearly 16 MB in data. Lets break down what I saw.pic.twitter.com/csegTyjuJF

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      3. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Let's first look at which endpoints were hit, and how often. Firefox launched with a http://mozilla.org  tab opened in a blurred tab. Resources loaded from there would explain the 26 calls. Some of these other hosts should be familiar, if you've read my other browser threads.pic.twitter.com/zsXoKQw0dD

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      4. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        The first 5 requests were for http://detectportal.firefox.com  over the HTTP protocol. These are meant to detect public networks, like that available at the coffee shop. If the response does not contain 'success', it's a good indicator you're on a portal.pic.twitter.com/r8nsqAa5CZ

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      5. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Next up were 2 identical requests for http://ocsp.digicert.com . OCSP is the Online Certificate Status Protocol, and is used to check for revocation of bad certs. I assume FF is testing its own certificate, since the browser opens with a Mozilla tab. No clue why it checked twice.

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      6. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        A call to http://snippets.cdn.mozilla.net  is next. The path carries information about the device I am using: OS, 32 or 64 bit, lang, etc. The call redirects to 12 KB of JSON. Snippets are small messages displayed on the New Tab.pic.twitter.com/ijzQAT6GL8

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      7. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Two Remote Settings calls are made to the http://tiles.services.mozilla.com  host. They are nearly identical bits of JSON. One is for the cfr provider, and the other is for cfr-fxa, per the https://github.com/mozilla/gecko/blob/central/testing/profiles/common/user.js#L9-L10 … resource. I have no remote settings, which explains ASR_RS_NO_MESSAGES.pic.twitter.com/lTTuA5A6n7

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      8. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        A third "http://tiles.services .moz" call is made, with a different body. It contains a client_id. Along with it were a few other bits of data: event=AS_ENABLED locale=en-US profile_creation_date=18134 region=UNSET release_channel=release topic=main value=0 version=68.0.2

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      9. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        The http://mozilla.org  tab discussing the importance of Privacy loads in the background, bringing along with it the Google Tag Manager and Google Analytics. Hello, Google.pic.twitter.com/SlNY9Bltss

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      10. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        It looks like we aren't done talking with Google either. Firefox makes its next move in downloading Safe Browsing bits from Google APIs. This is common among browsers today (Exception: @brave proxies the call through http://brave.com , keeping users out of Google's hands).

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      11. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Next up, http://normandy.cdn.mozilla.net . Mozilla says it "…is a feature that allows Mozilla to change the default value of a preference for a targeted set of users, without deploying an update to FF." It returns a JSON file with a handful of URLs. Firefox will use these URLs at times.pic.twitter.com/nyLsLHUxFB

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      12. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        In fact, part of the Normandy response included a URL for the classify-client action. Firefox makes a call for that next. The server returns a bit of JSON that specifies the users country, and a request time: {"country":"US","request_time":"2019-08-26T02:41:45.823283Z"}

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      13. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        The Normandy work doesn't stop there. Next we see calls to http://firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com . Each with a different path. The first request carries the bits that make up the path for the second request. And the third looks like the Snippets file from earlier.pic.twitter.com/mA4bUNVOzQ

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      14. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        The last normandy response above then instructs Firefox to download numerous certificates from http://content-signature-2.cdn.mozilla.net . At this point, Firefox takes a break and checks for available updates. It doesn't find any, so we get an XML response with an empty <updates> object.pic.twitter.com/x4kFeTQtho

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      15. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Another Normandy call to retrieve settings is made. This one results in a large list of buckets or records; I'm not sure of the nomenclature here. Either way, we see numerous calls for more data made as a result. For instance, "Have I Been Pwned" data is retrieved.pic.twitter.com/sw2iG4spSO

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      16. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        After a few more normandy calls, we now see a request to the aus5 sub on http://mozilla.org . This also passes device information, resulting in an XML response containing addons to download/install. The OpenH264 addon is requested over HTTP. I hope they do integrity checking!pic.twitter.com/OswiXN0wJy

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      17. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Also, it looks like these identical files are being downloaded twice. Is it a coincidence that Firefox opens with 2 tabs, and makes 2 identical calls? The 2nd addon is WideVine. This is requested directly from Google's http://gvt1.com  domain. Hello again, Google.

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      18. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Firefox has been open for a few minutes, and Mozilla would like to know about me, my machine, and how I have Firefox configured. 37,097 bytes of information are sent to http://incoming.telemetry.mozilla.org .pic.twitter.com/KLr5iYMDSt

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      19. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Of all browsers I've reviewed recently, Firefox is one of the most active upon installation. I think it may be the only one to immediately collect telemetry data too. I would like to see them proxy calls to Google endpoints, and avoid the initial http://mozilla.org  tab.

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      20. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Sampson je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceSampson

        That pretty much covers what Firefox does when you first run the browser after installation. If you enjoyed this thread, see the others I did on Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, Dissenter, and Chrome. Take care!https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165392803687542790 …

        Sampson je dodan/na,

        Sampson @jonathansampson
        From today: What happens when you first open the Opera browser? https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165353213308129281 … Vivaldi? https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165358155922059266 … Dissenter? https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165377063932637184 … And Brave? https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165391211999518720 … If you enjoy these threads, I'll consider doing more later 🙂
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      21. Sampson‏ @jonathansampson 25. kol 2019.
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        Sampson je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceSampson

        I also reviewed Google Chrome, for those interested:https://twitter.com/jonathansampson/status/1165493206441779200 …

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        Sampson @jonathansampson
        What happens when you launch Google Chrome for the first time on a Windows 10 machine? When I launched Google Chrome for the first time (and let it sit for a minute), 32 requests were made, and 7.26 MB of data downloaded. pic.twitter.com/UpmrQBUceK
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