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political reporter, @NBCNews Digital | co-author, NYT bestsellers “Shattered” and “HRC” | Nats fan | Terp | @northwesternu teacher | jon.allen@nbcuni.com

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    Jonathan Allen‏Verified account @jonallendc 2 Oct 2014

    Noteworthy: Secret Service directors for Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Reagan all kept their jobs despite their protectees being killed/shot.

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      2. Jonathan M. Katz ✍🏻‏Verified account @KatzOnEarth 2 Oct 2014
        Replying to @jonallendc

        @jonallendc @JesseDrucker Well the boss wasn't there to fire them in most cases.

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      3. Jonathan Allen‏Verified account @jonallendc 2 Oct 2014
        Replying to @KatzOnEarth

        @KatzOnEarth @JesseDrucker yes, but successor had every reason OnEarth to find a better protector.

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      4. Jonathan M. Katz ✍🏻‏Verified account @KatzOnEarth 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @JesseDrucker Chester A. Arthur knew he could take them all on himself.

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      5. Jonathan Allen‏Verified account @jonallendc 2 Oct 2014
        Replying to @KatzOnEarth

        @KatzOnEarth @JesseDrucker Allens are tough customers.

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      2. Adam Gutcheon‏ @HappyBerkowitz 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc Secret Service wasn't responsible for pres safety until 1902. Garfield, McKinley thought a security detail too monarchical.

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      3. Jonathan Allen‏Verified account @jonallendc 2 Oct 2014
        Replying to @HappyBerkowitz

        @HappyBerkowitz point still holds, though. Worse things have happened in history of presidential protection (Ford, too).

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      2. Jim Puzzanghera‏Verified account @JimPuzzanghera 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc Great point, though the political/media environment is much different today. Also, none involved failing to protect White House.

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      3. Jonathan Allen‏Verified account @jonallendc 2 Oct 2014
        Replying to @JimPuzzanghera

        @JimPuzzanghera I think we agree on your first point. On the second, seems like POTUS matters more than a bldg of unelecteds and reporters.

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      1. Michael Letterle‏ @mletterle 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @ZeddRebel Of course, there's a difference between doing everything you can and still failing, and being incompetent and lazy

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      1. Jon Fellows‏ @SOLockwood 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @susanferrechio Secret Svc wasn't responsible for Garfield & McKinley

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      1. Jay Rochester‏ @Jay_inrochester 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @rachbarnhart It's gonna turn into a resignation forced by sexism

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      1. mema1‏ @mema1 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @DanaBashCNN I am amazed that the Republicans are making a stink about this. Seems hypocritical to me

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      1. Todd Calvin‏ @decotodd 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @AdamSerwer -- Teddy? I didn't know until Burns' doc he'd been shot

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      2. Acilius‏ @losthunderlads 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @AdamSerwer Well, neither Garfield nor McKinley was protected by the Secret Service. That started under Theodore Roosevelt.

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      3. Acilius‏ @losthunderlads 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @AdamSerwer Also, Kennedy and Reagan had both refused Secret Service recommendations that would have prevented their shootings.

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      1. Rob Waldeck‏ @Robertwaldeck 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @AdamSerwer problem is institutional, long predates her.

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      1. Cindy Cooper‏ @CindyCoops 2 Oct 2014
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        Because those happened in spite of the agency doing its best, not as is the case today, due to relaxed standards. @jonallendc @MajorCBS

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      1. Brad Ham‏ @GuyLumbardo 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @rachbarnhart Are you pushing a sexism point here?

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      1. arnold govenator‏ @arnoldgovenator 2 Oct 2014
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        @jonallendc @MajorCBS perhaps they were part of plots? I most certainly would have had them fired or walking guard duty in coldest places !

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