Real, actual, sentient human beings have said they were victims of Kavanaugh and his cronies. The Democratic party didn't make this up. If you want to call the women liars, just say it.
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These are the sorts of details the FBI investigates to help flesh out the facts and assess the credibility of the accusations. GOP doesn't want the investigation because they're afraid of the truth.
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1) We can't insist that everything be a binary convinced someone did or didn't. There's always levels of doubt, such as beyond a reasonable doubt or preponderance of evidence.
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2) So in a confirmation process we can have a lower standard than in a court of law, but even in using 'preponderance of evidence' in Title IX cases to decide if students should be expelled a lot of innocent men have been punished
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3) But regardless of the level of evidence, how much doubt we choose to tolerate, there's always the basic presumption that the accused is innocent until the accuser can provide enough evidence to show otherwise.
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4) Everyone deserves to be listened to and have their claims checked out, but no one deserves to be believed. I don't believe men, I don't believe women. I believe evidence. And then I judge my level of uncertainty. /end
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I don’t think anyone serious on the right questions her sincerity. But you already know the timeline, not sure what you expect the FBI to uncover with no paper trail from 36 years ago, beyond statement taking.
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Exactly! But Dems chose to sit on it instead of give to FBI to investigate and keep Fords anonymity. Instead they chose to USE Ford as a Hail Mary in a last min obstruction attempt. Plain and simple. They didn’t care about her or her claims. They used her!
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don't forget the NO TEARS, NO RUNNY NOSE AND NO FACTS!!! Her BFF, leland said she never met kavanaugh with or without Dr. Ford who drove her home???
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And her representative failed her. This could have been brought to the attention of the President then and the nomination would have never occurred. Then, Sen Feinstein failed her and used the letter as a last second political ploy as opposed to investigating it confidentially.
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…and for the record I believe them both. Both without question believe their own stories so I’m left with evidence. Fords own witnesses say the party didn’t happen and her own best friend says she’s never met Kavanaugh. That’s a huge problem.
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They didn’t say it didn’t happen. They said they don’t recall...significant difference. They wouldn’t remember a mundane gathering if nothing memorable happened. That’s why Dr. Ford remembers that specific event and her friend didn’t.
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I didn’t say “it” didn’t happen I said the party didn’t which is what they all said. They said they have no recollection of this party she claims. She places her friend there but the friend has never met Kav. That’s a HUGE problem. Those are the facts.
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You’re repeating what you said before so I will too. The gathering, as Dr. Ford called it, would not have been memorable for anyone who didn’t experience trauma at it...for most of the kids it was forgettable. Who cares that Dr. Ford’s friend didn’t know him, that’s irrelevant.
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If she places her friend at the party but the friend says that can’t be because she never met the guy uhh that’s an issue. Sell yourself whatever makes you feel better but that’s crazy talk.
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She said she doesn’t recall. Again, that’s different than a definitive no. And besides, the friend wasn’t assaulted by him, so why would he be memorable? I don’t remember every single person I ever met at parties. Do you? Trust me. None of this makes me feel better.
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She didn't know it she felt it even after this is over and if all of you are proven wrong you would still say he doesn't belong on the court anyways.
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