American humanists, untutored in sociology, are knocked out by Foucault’s daring: analyze crime and punishment, prisons and penal codes! Gee, I wish I’d thought of that! Well, Foucault didn’t think of it either. It’s in Durkheim’s The Division of Labour in Society. (SAAC 1992)
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You just can't discipline yourself, Camille, to sit down and read him. Too bad. Most American intellectuals, Jordan Peterson included, just don't seem to have the discipline to read French po-mo theory.
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Replying to @johndavidebert @PagliaQuotes
I've read French po-mo theory and can say that it is absolute garbage. Derrida, Lacan, Cixous - all peddlers of irrelevant theories which have little to nothing to do with the real world.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nTXOF7K2ZA …
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You might've read them but you didn't understand them. If you had then you'd be aware of their applicability to all sorts of things. I've spent decades writing books applying their ideas to very concrete things: books, films, events, etc.
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I'm sure I've heard creationists use exactly this argument. "If you don't accept the bible as god-given truth then you must not have understood it!" OK dear.
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That's a retarded thing to say. The analogy has no validity. I find postmodern thought quite useful in understanding culture, especially contemporary art, most of which doesn't make much sense without some knowledge of it.
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You're not substantively addressing the argument though. Are you sure I'm the one being retarded? I'm sure plenty of theists find all sort of meaning in interpreting the world through scripture. That says exactly fuckall about the validity of such interpretations.
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Also, gosh gosh gosh, I wonder why postmodernism might help in understanding art derived from postmodern thinking. Is it possible that the same could be said of religious themes in art? God you are stupid.
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We're not talking about theology. We're talking about French postmodern thought. Try to stick with the subject. French postmodern thought. Have you read Foucault, Derrida, Virilio, Baudrillard or Deleuze? If not, you're missing out.
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Do you genuinely not understand the analogy? How sad.
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