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John David Ebert

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Author of Art After Metaphysics, The Age of Catastrophe, The New Media Invasion and Dead Celebrities Living Icons.

Santa Fe, NM
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    1. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @huntermaats and

      Or test tube. Or optical glass. Maybe the first stirrings of the Glass Age are felt as early as the telescope. Scrambling of scales. Immanentization of the celestial spheres. Spinoza was a lens maker by trade.

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    2. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
      Replying to @JF_Martel @huntermaats and

      Exactly...was it when they decided that the celestial spheres were made of crystal? That had to have been before the telescope, right?

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    3. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @huntermaats and

      Right. Modernity starts when they figure out that the celestial spheres are not made of crystal ... thanks to crystal.

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    4. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
      Replying to @JF_Martel @huntermaats and

      So maybe The #GlassAge contains modernity and all of its offspring, until #biopunk escapes the test tubes...certainly the #hypermodern is glass, and the #metamodern is sincerely but also ironically glass. ;)

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    5. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @huntermaats and

      Settling on the #GlassAge would at least give the conversation some material substance, and maybe even help us realize that the obsession with naming each generation to distinguish it from what precedes and follows it is a sure sign we’re still just plain old #moderns.

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    6. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
      Replying to @JF_Martel @huntermaats and

      Given that the invisible environment of our transparent material medium for modernity is now the subject of an age-defining conversation, perhaps the #GlassAge is already almost over...? And along with it, modernity and all its prefixes.

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    7. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @huntermaats and

      Maybe the “cloud” heralds a new epoch. Alan Moore says our culture must turn to steam.

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    8. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
      Replying to @JF_Martel @huntermaats and

      That's one of the major premises of the #hypermodern thesis as laid out by @johndavidebert @MichaelAaronK et al. The cloud is a potent orienting metaphor, but again: it's made of glass. "Call me" when it's made from water vapor...

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    9. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Jul 28
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @JF_Martel and

      Hmmm... Glass is fragile, while water vapor is robust. Not sure where I'm going with this, but maybe there's something here. Perhaps indicative that Glass Age is not meant to last long?

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    10. Michael Aaron Kamins‏ @MichaelAaronK Jul 28
      Replying to @MimeticValue @michaelgarfield and

      The Cloud is not a substance- substance has been absolutely sublated in hypmd, pushed-off from into pure logical form which is what Digitalization means. Living in telematic Hyperspace or the Cloud is to be already absolutely vaporized— the Soul today no longer animates substance

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      John David Ebert‏ @johndavidebert Jul 28
      Replying to @MichaelAaronK @MimeticValue and

      Yes! Finally someone who actually knows what he's talking about!

      8:14 PM - 28 Jul 2018
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        2. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
          Replying to @johndavidebert @MichaelAaronK and

          I understand the premise but politely disagree; the lack of substance is phenomenological or hermeneutic but not in fact. We still communicate through a medium.

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        3. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
          Replying to @michaelgarfield @johndavidebert and

          We’re obviously not talking about substance in the metaphysical sense.

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        4. Michael Aaron Kamins‏ @MichaelAaronK Jul 28
          Replying to @JF_Martel @michaelgarfield and

          But substance is always metaphysical. It can have a positive-factual dimension— but even that—especially that— is subject to Heraclitean flux changing from epoch to epoch. What “matters” in discerning the meaning of our epoch is where the Soul dwells today and that’s the Cloud.

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        5. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
          Replying to @MichaelAaronK @michaelgarfield and

          My point is that we’re not saying that glass or vapour are metaphysical substances, only material, media, necessary for the transmission of information. The digital is an analog dream, like all dreams.

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        6. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
          Replying to @JF_Martel @MichaelAaronK and

          Maybe we should call metaphysical "substance" something else, like "superstance" or "metastance" thus acknowledging the distinction between what we're literally standing on and what floats ceaselessly, seeking bodies.

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        7. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
          Replying to @michaelgarfield @MichaelAaronK and

          Sorry misread you and deleted the tweet. Substance has a very long history in philosophy. Metaphysics kind of owns that term, really. I should have used a different word earlier.

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        8. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
          Replying to @JF_Martel @MichaelAaronK and

          Damnit now how are we going to conflate matter and substance™? I suppose it's not necessary to articulate a #GlassAge but it does make tweeting about it more of a Mr Toad's Wild Ride™

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        2. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield Jul 28
          Replying to @johndavidebert @MichaelAaronK and

          And the medium of our communications is not purely logical; even a bit is analog, rounded to the nearest 0 or 1. Digital appears rational because it rationated away everything else, externalized its costs, like a 3 year old running away from home.

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        3. JF Martel‏ @JF_Martel Jul 28
          Replying to @michaelgarfield @johndavidebert and

          Truth.

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