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Geek. Husband. Dad. Sysadmin. Gamer. Bibliophile. Doing systems and DBA support for Engine Yard, but these views are my own.

Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
http://johndalton.info/
Joined August 2007

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    John Dalton‏ @johndalton Apr 26

    This article is from 2014, but is especially relevant to the sudden mass awareness of the whole incel thing. It’s a must read even if you don’t give a shit about incels:http://www.doctornerdlove.com/fear-of-being-invisible/ …

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      2. Yonic the Hedgehog‏ @na_cotic Apr 26
        Replying to @johndalton

        I’d say I don’t completely disagree but when men’s “notice me” is mass murder, it makes this feel a bit too forgiving

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Yonic the Hedgehog‏ @na_cotic Apr 26
        Replying to @na_cotic @johndalton

        Observations in this about how women find men attractive forgets that women will more often look at a whole man. E.g. I don’t find most meat axes attractive. But Chris Hemsworth is so clearly just an all round good dude he’s attractive to me. Daniel Craig? Not so much.

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      4. Yonic the Hedgehog‏ @na_cotic Apr 26
        Replying to @na_cotic @johndalton

        You could have muscles and money for days, it wouldn’t do it for me. But it also suggest women are so base as to not look beyond the body which we know is bs.

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      5. Small Salty Chicken‏ @TaniaWalker Apr 26
        Replying to @na_cotic @johndalton

        Yeah, this. IMO the twitter thread I first encountered this article packaged in made it more palatable because the tweets were a hell of a lot less forgiving. Re men, I’ve never dated a “chad”, to use their terminology, in my life. I /exclusively/ date nerds.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. John Dalton‏ @johndalton Apr 26
        Replying to @TaniaWalker @na_cotic

        I don’t think this article is forgiving at all, but I have to admit that it’s not communicating its ideas very well. Or, that I’m really missing something here.

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      7. John Dalton‏ @johndalton Apr 26
        Replying to @johndalton @TaniaWalker @na_cotic

        I see this as an article pitched at blokes who have experienced the same issues that incels complain about, explaining to them in terms they should understand that the problem is nothing to do with women but with toxic masculinity and (damnit, here we go) the patriarchy.

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      8. Small Salty Chicken‏ @TaniaWalker Apr 26
        Replying to @johndalton @na_cotic

        Hmm. If it is trying to do that it is being incredibly gentle. And it is that gentleness that those of us in demographics being straight-up violently murdered object to.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. John Dalton‏ @johndalton Apr 26
        Replying to @TaniaWalker @na_cotic

        Every time something like this happens we hear that men need to step up more, to actually talk to other blokes & tell them they are wrong, to explain how systemic sexism is the problem and they need to fix their own shit. This is what that looks like. I have these conversations.

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      2. Peter Hardy‏ @stibbons Apr 26
        Replying to @johndalton

        Oh god was that street harassment video really 2014?!

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      3. John Dalton‏ @johndalton Apr 26
        Replying to @stibbons

        The relentless march of time, my friend.

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