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Writes programs and books. Invents things. Gives talks. Fixes broken software. Hobbies: Stroking cats, playing piano, grumbling, reading, thinking.

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    Joe Armstrong‏ @joeerl 7 Nov 2018

    Telling someone a file name is a dangerous operation - tell them the content hash instead and all will be well and all manner of things will be well.

    12:27 AM - 7 Nov 2018
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      1. Erik Stenman‏ @erik_stenman 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl

        You would love Merkel trees, now my favourite data structure.

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      1. Profiles Georg‏ @PLT_cheater 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl

        content hashes are also much easier to remember ;)

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      2. Ian StillSpookyson‏ @sathside 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl

        What do you recommend for hashing?

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      3. Ian StillSpookyson‏ @sathside 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @sathside @joeerl

        Don't mean to be testy, it's just looking at methods there are a lot of options and I wonder what the best way is

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      4. David Barbour‏ @awelonblue 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @sathside @joeerl

        Blake2b is what I chose for this (modeling a persistent tree over a content-addressed storage). It's a fast secure hash with nice security properties.

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      1. Collin Bell‏ @SlightlyCyborg 25 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl @apenwarr

        A true genius would write their files in such a way that it hashes to an appropriate name.

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      2. Edward J. Stembler‏ @ejstembler 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl

        Interesting idea. Though you’d have to know all the hashes of all the files

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      3.  📶‏ @coreload 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @ejstembler @joeerl

        You'd need a content-addressable store with patterns, e.g. "match this, don't care about that" for example, "give me the configuration for machine X" the actual configuration may vary, but it must be for machine X. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_centric_networking …

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      1. Ashes to Stardust‏ @StardustHijinks 7 Nov 2018
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        Ashes to Stardust Retweeted whitequark

        I don’t know, seems like there could be some corner cases…https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/986210234669588481 …

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        cursed test case pic.twitter.com/ND3LNSRIY8
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      2. Trenton Lipscomb‏ @TrentonL 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @joeerl

        So, how do you locate the object with that hash?

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      3. David Barbour‏ @awelonblue 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @TrentonL @joeerl

        Like filenames, you usually know where to look based on context (e.g. if not in cache, query source of hash). When you don't know where to look, hash is provider independent and easily validated, better than a filename (except for human memory).

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      4. Trenton Lipscomb‏ @TrentonL 7 Nov 2018
        Replying to @awelonblue @joeerl

        But you have to compute it on every write and index it. Could be neat, though, if you just had a filesystem like filesystem:eb0ee296204254428c4e0f573ad7b0d8ae7dca71. Bittorrent magnet links are somewhat like that, it seems

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