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Hence the quotation marks. What makes it tricky? The others don't get it & "they" will put "you" in "prison" if "you" don't pay "your" "TAXES" ..So, eventually, all our airy transcendent philosophizing gets sorely tested. Yeah, I know it's true, but so's brain Cancer.
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I get U; 55 yrs ago, I read everything I could find about consciousness, duality, Maya, the illusory nature of identifying as a separate being, but what you're saying can seem like intellectualizing if you're being stabbed in the face & someone says, "Relax, there's no YOU." C?
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You come up with the goofiest hypotheticals. "Stabbed in the face"... lol. All I know is if attention is observed, when it is not on a thought, the sense of "you" is absent. But if you're worried about getting stabbed in the face, it's not gonna work 😆
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You seem 2 B in great shape in terms of dealing with it all with serene indifference. It sometimes appears that you're one who finds it all sad & cruelly pointless & would prefer to not be here, but now "you" have taught me that "you" don't even exist, hence..No problem, Eh? :-)
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Obviously, "I" haven't taught "you" anything. lol. It's just an experiment I've been engaged in the past few days. As far as the human condition is concerned, I'm still hardcore antinatalist. Birthing more bodies to suffer & die is not the way to go.
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But nobody's born & nobody's suffering, Right? Honest, I'm not trying to antagonize or pointlessly argue. I think we're in agreement on both points. It's just that my question above points up that while technically true, it can count for little while the powerful illusion holds.
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There are bodies. Lots of bodies, being birthed & suffering & dying. There is no "self" in these bodies. That's all that is being said. It's like when you're in deep sleep. There is no thought. Hence, no sense of self. This is not really that difficult.
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No, it's not difficult. No sweat. I told you: I "get" what you're saying & heard & read it so many times as a young "seeker" ages ago. I'm just saying, for me, personally, it's just more suerfluous conceptualizing in the face of what inexorably IS. It's not helpful..for "me" :-/
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Who said that? And who are you talking to? I'm kidding. Back at ya' - we're realistic compassionate thinkers on the same page & it's a in a modern Greek tragedy & we try to do our best to deal in different ways at different times. Peace!
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Yeah. The "who" and the "you" and the "me" is all a manifestation of thought-language. A fiction. It has no reality beyond that. This is hard to grasp because the "you" and "me" are built into the language. It's taken for granted.