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Same way gravity is, through observation and inference. People act without being acted upon. Action must originate within the subject. Subjectively, I think (therefore I am), and I act in accordance with, or contrary to, what was thought prior.
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How is it measured? What is measured? You keep dodging the question. You have a metaphysical belief in a thing called a "self". It's a belief, not a fact. What unit of measurement is used to define this illusory "self"? Give me the formula.
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Self is the way by which all measurements can and are made. No measurement could be made aside from via the self. Its capacity to measure is the proof of its existence.
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You might as well put magical thinking like god and fairy dust in the mix. "God is the way by which all measurements can be made." Yada yada yada. Blah blah blah.
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You seem to be actively trying to not understand me, so I must assume this topic is emotionally salient for you and will further this conversation no more.
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