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Hacking life, reading the comments, collaborating in good faith, and geeking out. Fond of the saying: "Don't believe everything you think."

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      Dr. Ralph Baric, among leading coronavirus scientists, much to lose, honestly:"You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace." @Voxdotcom, OCTOBER 2021, citing a single commentary from way back, March 2020, *twice* to assert what "we know for sure". Why people lose trust.pic.twitter.com/RNILY9RbiL

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      I don't think we can assign likelihood to the options tbh—a bit like dividing by zero, given lack of evidence or cover-up—but some do say "I think this is more likely". Fine. But "we know for sure"? There is a Turkish saying for this: more of a royalist than even the king.

      9 replies 11 retweets 129 likes
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓

      For the record! (Etymology is almost certainly from French to Turkish, as there was a period of massive French influence on the language). Also, French has some of the best quips about monarchies!https://twitter.com/VParbelle/status/1452331597630517253 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓 @VParbelle
      Replying to @zeynep
      Also a French saying: Être plus royaliste que le roi 😉
      7 replies 8 retweets 110 likes
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      After the Iraq War debacle, trust in media in the US dropped ~10-15% and never recovered. Good journalism isn't stenography. The way not to give fuel to misinformation and, yes, even absurd and terrible theories is to establish trust is through honest but *challenging* reporting.

      28 replies 113 retweets 595 likes
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jamie Metzl

      Worth reading. The first WHO investigation on COVID origins ended up rating *frozen food imports* from elsewhere as *more likely* than even a lab accident, let alone anything else. A repeat of the same embarrassing debacle isn't in the public interest.https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl/status/1452981444679249922 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jamie MetzlVerified account @JamieMetzl
      .@WHO SAGO is an important step toward better understanding the origin of #COVID19 & future pandemics, but the list of nominees requires some essential changes to make this possible. Here's our letter sent to @DrTedros @ @mvankerkhove earlier today. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355585072_Proposed_changes_to_the_composition_of_the_SAGO_committee?channel=doi&linkId=61779f59eef53e51e1ebdf46&showFulltext=true …
      9 replies 33 retweets 154 likes
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021

      Two issues: what sparked this pandemic? May be unknowable, given the cover-up, but we can still learn to try to address *all* the possibilities. Second is about *us*. How can "frozen food" end up in a WHO report as a realistic option like that, for ex? Where's the deep coverage?

      11 replies 14 retweets 125 likes
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021

      Lest anyone has any questions, I encourage people to look at the first WHO report to see their exact conclusions on what they considered "possible" (frozen food chain) and what they considered "extremely unlikely" (any lab incident), in explicit ranking. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/origins-of-the-virus …pic.twitter.com/OSp8QP5phG

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Gary Ruskin

      Another letter on the new WHO origins group. The committee will have limits on access but a thorough accounting of open questions would be good. Having more people with the right expertise who demonstrate such independence and fewer who dismissed legitimate questions is helpful.https://twitter.com/garyruskin/status/1453118907246469130 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Gary RuskinVerified account @garyruskin
      Our open letter to @WHO asking them to remove ten proposed SAGO members for conflicts of interests and other reasons, and replace them with people who will inspire public trust in the WHO’s investigation of the origins of #COVID19. https://usrtk.org/biohazards-blog/public-comments-sago/ …
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Oct 2021

      (I don’t think having an opinion on either likelihood is disqualifying. Trust is inspired by willingness to engage the open questions rather than brushing them away or pretending there is no issue. Surely there are a good number of such people with the requisite expertise).

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Mara Hvistendahl

      Yep. The people who *correctly* pointed out the obfuscations and the lack of transparency and accountability in the COVID origins investigation had long been dismissed as conspiracy theorists. Late conversions with shifting winds don't fix this dynamic.https://twitter.com/MaraHvistendahl/status/1454060376035893253 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Mara HvistendahlVerified account @MaraHvistendahl
      It will be interesting to watch how the NIH-EcoHealth Alliance spat plays out. Already I see people who dismissed @theintercept's FOIA lawsuit reinventing themselves as transparency advocates.
      2 replies 15 retweets 54 likes
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      Joseph Reagle‏ @jmreagle 29 Oct 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Trumpists attempted to use the lab hypothesis as a diversion from their own bungling. Their incoherence claiming both that it was a deadly conspiracy, born in a lab, and of little concern and soon going away) eviscerated any chance of actual nuance.

      12:14 PM - 29 Oct 2021
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