Perhaps you need to ask the person who did the work?
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Ask what?
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Often actual work is done by junior member, ask them for the data.
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Right! Sounds like a good idea.
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The question is will we ECRs become secretive over time, or are we seeing the start of a more open community?
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Correct, I think this is the right question to ask.
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I still need to read the paper but I’ll ask the question anyway: how much of this “openness” could be driven by the potential benefit for ECRs to be a coauthor in someone else’s paper that eventually could yield more benefits (e.g. > papers, tenure)?
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I don't know, but the benefits of at least data citations (not co-authorship) are discussed in the paper. I think is a completely legitimate reason for opening up your data.
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For sure! I totally agree. Sharing data can be, in fact, driven or motivated by multiple and legitimate reasons. I just wanted to ask about this particular one in the case of the paper. Thanks!
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It's a tricky effect to look for, as only older researchers can have old articles. Do they not want to share their data because they're older, or because they're from a cohort that never liked sharing data?
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There's all sorts of problems with this article - e.g. they didn't actually check whether the authors had already shared their data before asking them to share it.
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Let's ping the CA
@Hamish_Dr , perhaps he can provide some comments on this
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The data sharing research paper is behind paywall?

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Just get an early career researcher to ask for the data.
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Interesting that the data may be freely available, but the publication probably isn’t...pic.twitter.com/JfPgDV5Ujy
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I did not know these figures, but we plan to do exactly that with my student: from my point of view, the most informed person in study team becomes a CA naturally, which often means a more junior person.
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The remaining 89% of senior researchers never saw the raw data themselves too...
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I have to admit that I am not surprised. Isn't fear correlated with age?
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I wouldn’t call it fear, but rather misplaced priorities and, perhaps, less familiarity/training in reproducible methods.
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Yes, you also have a point. Maybe it is also lack of data access, after a postdoc has left (which is essentially a result of less training in reproducible methods).
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