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bringing the soul back in computing. froot loop in a bowl of cheerios. learning something new every day. one half of @weirdtrickmafia.

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    Jessie Frazelle‏Verified account @jessfraz Oct 1
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    Jessie Frazelle Retweeted brendandburns

    Why a project would _want_ to be a part of CNCF is beyond me, the Linux Foundation notoriously does not help, the marketing is so fake and inorganic (they don't need it). The only reason to do it is shared IP and if they want that there's so many better places than LF.https://twitter.com/brendandburns/status/1179176440647913472 …

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    I'm pretty disappointed to see Knative forgo open governance. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/knative-dev/YmL2vgMC4rc … The growth and user focus of Kubernetes, Helm and many others show that CNCF is a great home for open communities. OSS is better if we work together in neutral spaces
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      2. Topper Bowers‏ @tobowers Oct 1
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        I’m super interested in this take. Is there an already established home for OSS you prefer? A new foundation for each project doesn’t seem ideal either.

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      3. Jessie Frazelle‏Verified account @jessfraz Oct 1
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        Definitely not a new foundation but check out Apache or software conservancy... Hell even checkout the openstack foundation

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      2. Andor @ fabadaconf Gijón‏ @tecleandor Oct 1
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        I'm not really sure what CNCF does. Its name sounds a lot around corporate, but they let good projects die (i.e. RKT)

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      3. Jessie Frazelle‏Verified account @jessfraz Oct 1
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        I sadly think RKT died because few were really using it

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      2. Taylor Brown‏ @Taylorb_msft Oct 1
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        I can’t dispute room for improvement, however I do think LF and CNCF by extension help with the corporate intent inevitable in valuable oss projects. The corp interests demand PR, LF helps keep it somewhat constrained.

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      3. Jessie Frazelle‏Verified account @jessfraz Oct 1
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        Doing what corporations want is _actually_ LFs job and I'm definitely not saying they are doing their job badly, actually they excel at it. Just saying some projects need different things

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      2. Rick Rackow‏ @RiRa12621 Oct 1
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        Curious, did you ask makers and maintainers of projects, why they want their projects in the CNCF? Last (successful) attempt I followed was @ThanosMetrics but I actually never asked @fredbrancz or @bwplotka on the reasons for joining. It just seemed like „the thing to do“ to me.

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      3. Bartłomiej Płotka‏ @bwplotka Oct 2
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        Neutral ground and operational help. So far the support from @CloudNativeFdn is amazing and we are grateful for that. Our decision was also easier: with @fredbrancz as @PrometheusIO maintainers we already seen the value. We will definitely apply for graduation to the next stages.

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      1. Tracy Miranda‏ @tracymiranda Oct 2
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        @jenkins & @jenkinsxio in LF's @CDeliveryFdn benefit from lots of services e.g. funding for interns via @outreachy & communitybridge, project health metrics with https://devstats.cd.foundation/ , growing community in China, etc

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        or we could just shame people into pay-to-play marketing foundations. I think that's best for us all

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