Jesse Spafford
Same thing goes for H. Rosin. So the entire case for skepticism is built on the hunches of people proven to be incompetent fraud detectors.
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His epistemology is warped. He believes what he does for reasons entirely divorced from evidence and justification. He just gets lucky.
Even if it turns out that the UVA truthers were right, their epistemology is warped by ideology. Lack of justification offset by brute luck.
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Apparently wanting facts, before condemning a group of people for something that didn't happen, is something to be mocked.
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@TheINDYpundit There were a lot of evidence to justify condemnation. What reasons were there for doubting the allegations? - View other replies
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@BloodierMary You don't think testimony counts as evidence? Even when it's corroborated by third parties? And backed by a major publication?
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@BloodierMary I'm thinking specifically about people who witnessed trauma-like symptoms in Jackie after the time she says she was raped.
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@BloodierMary Plus the fact that RS published her account and one would assume (incorrectly as it turns out) that they would fact check.
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@BloodierMary Also, I'm talking epistemology, not law when I say "evidence" so it's a bit different from what you're saying.
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@jessespafford Google psychological projection. -
@brizoni I think in this case the evidence almost all pointed in one direction. Though I won't deny that ideology sometimes warps my beliefs - View other replies
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@jessespafford What evidence is there that anything like what she described happened? -
@brizoni Testimony that was both supported by third parties and the fact that a major publication endorsed the account. - View other replies
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@brizoni (Turns out the publication's endorsement wasn't meaningful because of no fact checking, but no reason to think that at the time.) - View other replies
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@jessespafford@brizoni Ummm, maybe the obvious lack of fact checking was reason? -
@jessespafford@brizoni Plenty of people thought to question the account immediately; zero contact with accused was evident from get go - Show more
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@jessespafford An ideology that says evidence of a crime is useful when determining if that crime ever took place? I'll stick with that. -
@Neal_Dewing You don't think that testimony counts as evidence? -
@jessespafford@Neal_Dewing Testimony counts, but repetitive hearsay testimony doesn't amplify -
@NotThatBill@Neal_Dewing True, but I'm thinking mainly of the witness who reported trauma-like behavior of the victim after the incident. - View other replies
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@jessespafford Depression? Bad grades? "Trauma-like behavior" doesn't really mean anything absent some established facts.@NotThatBill -
@Neal_Dewing@NotThatBill Someone says they were raped on a given date. Following that date they suddenly exhibit psychological symptoms... -
@Neal_Dewing@NotThatBill ... it seems pretty reasonable to me to infer from this that these were trauma symptoms. -
@jessespafford@Neal_Dewing Which constitutes (weak) corroborating evidence. Doesn't independently prove anything. - Show more
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