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Jesse Powell
@jespow
Since when is anything that uses electricity evil? Should we survey the ROI on every industry or just shut down the Internet and power plants, and roll civilization back to the stone age? Maybe energy is underpriced. That's not the consumer's problem. Crypto is net positive.
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J. Anders Langberg (anders.tez)
@jalangberg
It’s not so black and white. When there are alternatives, it’s irresponsible to use an energy guzzling legacy alternative. If you do, mitigate. PoW showed the way, but PoS is here now. It’s doing what we can with tech we have. Regardless if it’s cars or crypto.
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Jesse Powell
@jespow
It's not irresponsible. Market will decide what it values. Who's to say what people should be doing with the energy they buy? Should we dictate how humans should spend the calories they consume? The problem seems to be that dirtier forms of energy production are undertaxed.
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J. Anders Langberg (anders.tez)
@jalangberg
If your choices only affected you, I would agree. But calories as well as energy have a much wider impact, so we have to think about others. If we don’t, someone else eventually will. All energy have an ecological footprint, not just fossil based. So using less is just better.
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J. Anders Langberg (anders.tez)
@jalangberg
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@jespow
I think my point is that by self-moderating we leave ourselves room to use energy where we have to, and leave us time to shift from fossil. Hydro and wind power both destroy local ecosystems, so it’s not without impact even if it doesn’t contribute to global warming.
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Jesse Powell
@jespow
The best thing we could do to reduce global energy consumption would be to immediately kill the fiat currency system, which produces massive amounts of waste, unnecessary middlemen, social instability, wars. This could be encouraged by imposing high taxes on fiat transactions.
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Bowlistic 🎯
@bowlistic
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@jespow
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@jalangberg
Depends on what time scale you live on planet earth. Energy is finite unless it's imported into our planet e.g. solar. I suggest you read "when a billion Chinese people jump". It goes into detail with regards to the damage hydro is having on their country.
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