The question for real estate investors then is: is anywhere safe? Where can one build a low density, high-priced community which will not constantly be attacked by invaders seeking to destroy what the inhabitants value?
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1) this is not-so-coded racist language
2) If you’re that worried about people living near you, buy a ton of land for yourself and fence it off rather than trying to control what your neighbors do
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1. sorry you feel the need to make personal attacks rather than addressing points of argument
2. presumably we agree that neighbors can enter in to agreements, HOAs, even create governments. If we've made an agreement and I've relied on that agreement, I expect you to keep it.
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According to your logic, the government literally can’t change any laws or regulations lmao
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It depends on the powers of the government. In an HOA, it's up to the property owners to vote. In a government, it's usually up to the residents. Problem is when the residents are at odds with the property owners. Usually, it's the residents trying to take something from owners.
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Jesse, my sincere advice to you is to make enough money that you can buy a massive plot of land in the middle of nowhere and build whatever you want there that satisfies your needs. But stop trying to impose your NIMBYism on me and other people who live in SF.
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Why don't you guys go move it the middle of nowhere and build whatever society you want there with a clean slate? Seems like that'd be a lot easier than trying to fight the existing system that all the property owners have already bought in to and relied upon all these years.
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Because, if your goal is to live somewhere with no jobs and few people, you can easily just move yourself out to the middle of nowhere. If my goal is to live somewhere with jobs and lots of people, I'd have to somehow move lots of jobs and people to this location - not easy.
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I want to live in a low density community with lots of jobs and lots of people nearby, who will respect the laws of our community and not try to force rezoning and colonization upon us. I am willing to pay a lot to live in such an area. What's the price to be left alone?
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Here’s the thing: you’re conceiving of property rights as the right to control what your neighbors do with their property, rather than the right to control what you do with your own property.
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I'm talking about contract enforcement. My neighbor and I can enter in to a contract scoping the acceptable use of land. So can an entire neighborhood (HOA), and so can a city. Zoning is use scoping at the city level. It's a contract. Problem is the terms are always up for vote.
Yes, that's the problem. Zoning is not a contract. It's law and law can be changed at any time without recourse. It would be better if it were a contract. With the law being able to be changed at any time, people need to fall back to contracts/HOAs to enforce on the neighborhood.
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