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    Jennifer Valentino-DeVries‏Verified account @jenvalentino 10 Apr 2020

    (Significant) privacy questions aside, I see folks saying Bluetooth contact tracing apps won't work because not everyone will use them, etc. The epidemiologists I talked to told me they took this into account in their models and such apps still looked to be helpful.

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      2. Ryan Calo‏Verified account @rcalo 10 Apr 2020
        Replying to @jenvalentino

        I wish I understood better why. Also, there’s a big difference imo between using apps as one source of information for health authorities and trying to use them to let people someone avoid getting sick.

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      3. Jennifer Valentino-DeVries‏Verified account @jenvalentino 10 Apr 2020
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        Because their end metric is whether something will have a significant effect on mitigating the spread of disease, not whether it will solve everything or be some kind of techno-vaccine. That's not a thing.

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      1. Nathan Scandella‏ @enscand 10 Apr 2020
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        They don't have to be ubiquitous. They need to be widely used enough to add significant ability to track spread without constant testing of everyone (which we can never do). They'll work better/faster the more ppl opt in. This is about nudging R down below 1. Not making it 0.

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      2. Mario Fusco  🇪🇺‏ @mariofusco 10 Apr 2020
        Replying to @jenvalentino @jwildeboer

        This is not the main problem. 90 or 95% of infected people don't even know they are. Here in Italy we have officially 150k infected, but in reality we believe that 2M is a conservative estimation.

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      3.  😷 Jan Wildeboer‏ @jwildeboer 10 Apr 2020
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        And wouldn’t it be good to have better data through proximity tracking?

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      2. Mark Friedenbach‏ @MarkFriedenbach 10 Apr 2020
        Replying to @jenvalentino @ChristopherA

        The mathematics of that doesn’t make sense. In Singapore only 1/6 installed the app. That means for every encounter the likelihood of it being tracked is (1/6)^2, or 3%. A 3% success rate is NOT going to have a significant impact on outcomes.

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      3. Jennifer Valentino-DeVries‏Verified account @jenvalentino 10 Apr 2020
        Replying to @MarkFriedenbach @ChristopherA

        I'm just going by the math of the epidemiologists at the Oxford Big Data Institute. They say a "majority" of people need to use the app. It's context-dependent! If you have a trusted central health system like in the UK and your doctor says "use this app," you might just do it.

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