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    1. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Apr 2019
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      Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in. https://ianix.com/pub/dnssec-outages/20190321-www.cloudflare.com/ …

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    2. Frank‏ @jedisct1 10 Apr 2019
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      Playing the devil’s advocate here, but what that page shows is that like anything else, DNSSEC requires operational work. Broken/expired TLS certificates are everywhere, yet we don’t blame TLS.

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    3. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 10 Apr 2019
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      the DNSSEC outages we see demonstrate that largest companies (many of whom this is supposedly an area of expertise) can't handle said operational work. so what hope do other companies have?

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    4. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 10 Apr 2019
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      and when you weigh up the risks and benefits, TLS deployment is far more lucrative than DNSSEC

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    5. Frank‏ @jedisct1 10 Apr 2019
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      And to get back to the original topic, is MTA-STS any better? Do the benefits outweigh the risk of failure?

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    6. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Apr 2019
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      What’s the failure risk you see here? To fail in a way that made things worse than the status quo ante, wouldn’t an MTA have to start using TLS, and then suddenly decide to stop doing that and just use plaintext SMTP?

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      Frank‏ @jedisct1 10 Apr 2019
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      As I just said. We’ll be in a world where a MySQL failure, or upgrading Wordpress may cause emails from Gmail not being delivered any more, because it will have silently changed a rule affecting the `.well-known/blahblah` file.

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        1. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 10 Apr 2019
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          Is there a scenario where that can happen if you speak TLS SMTP?

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