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@jckarter

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Joined January 2009
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    1. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 12 Dec 2015

      You can tell Swift is fundamentally static because otherwise there couldn’t even be talk about the compiler optimizing the dynamic parts.

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    2. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 12 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai It's as dynamic or static as your program needs to be.

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    3. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 12 Dec 2015

      @jckarter Not when my program is linking to code that already has the dynamism compiled out.

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    4. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 12 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai You can link to public classes and protocols and get the dynamism you expect.

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    5. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 12 Dec 2015

      @jckarter I don't think I could do something like this with a hypothetical Swift AppKit. Dispatch, but no msg send. http://furbo.org/2014/04/18/get-ready-for-june-2nd/ …

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    6. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 12 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai You can't do that today, either. Any change to NSFont's impl could break hacks like this.

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    7. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 12 Dec 2015

      @jckarter It’s not future proof, but it works great for debugging or temporarily working around a framework bug.

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      Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 12 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai Sure, but then those workarounds end up in production builds, and Foundation grows more scar tissue to work around the workaround.

      4:02 PM - 12 Dec 2015
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        1. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 12 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai Longer term I think everyone's happier when components respect each other's boundaries.

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        2. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 18 Dec 2015

          @jckarter Just used swizzling to work around a CorePDF crash. I’m not a fan of scar tissue, but it’s better than crashing.

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      1. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 12 Dec 2015

        @jckarter That’s why I said temporary. Long-term, in theory the bug will be fixed, but in the meantime things are broken.

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