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    1. Jonathan Wight ‏@schwa Jul 17 Berkeley, CA

      “[Rather than redesigning the type checker] they are redesigning the standard library to try and skirt around the issue.” Cry

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      Joe Groff ‏@jckarter Jul 17

      @schwa @cocoawithlove "rewrite the type checker" is up there on list of things we want to do.

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        1. Slava Pestov ‏@slava_pestov Jul 17

          @jckarter @schwa @cocoawithlove "rewrite" is a bit harsh, I think refactoring with an eye toward simplifying core concepts is more like it

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        2. Slava Pestov ‏@slava_pestov Jul 17

          @jckarter @schwa @cocoawithlove Once some representational issues are fixed it will be easier to add heuristics for more exponential cases

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        3. Doug Gregor ‏@dgregor79 Jul 17

          @slava_pestov @jckarter @schwa @cocoawithlove I'm skeptical of a rewrite of that type checker. But there are algorithmic wins to be had

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        5. Jacob Bandes-Storch ‏@jtbandes Jul 17

          @dgregor79 @slava_pestov @jckarter Maybe I missed this conversation earlier, but do y’all think @cocoawithlove’s idea would work?

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        7. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter Jul 17

          @jtbandes @dgregor79 @slava_pestov @cocoawithlove so it's hard to make changes with confidence about what it will or won't break.

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        8. Slava Pestov ‏@slava_pestov Jul 17

          @jckarter @jtbandes @dgregor79 @cocoawithlove As I understand it there are improvements that can be made without changing behavior too

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        10. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter Jul 17

          @slava_pestov @jtbandes @dgregor79 @cocoawithlove Modeling functions should at least be less slushy with tuple splats and labels banished

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        1. Austin Zheng ‏@austinzheng Jul 17

          @jckarter @schwa @cocoawithlove Is there going to eventually be a proper design for global associated type witness inference?

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        2. Doug Gregor ‏@dgregor79 Jul 17

          @austinzheng @jckarter @schwa @cocoawithlove global inference of type witnesses requires architectural changes to work properly.

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        3. Slava Pestov ‏@slava_pestov Jul 17

          @dgregor79 @austinzheng Would that fall under finishing the iterative decl checker or is there more to it than that?

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        4. Doug Gregor ‏@dgregor79 Jul 17

          @slava_pestov @austinzheng that's a prerequisite. But you actually need to solve for (potentially) all of the type witnesses simultaneously

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        5. Slava Pestov ‏@slava_pestov Jul 17

          @dgregor79 @austinzheng Across multiple conformances or just one?

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        6. Doug Gregor ‏@dgregor79 Jul 17

          @slava_pestov @austinzheng if not all, then you need to define an ordering, because associated types get inherited

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