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    1. Brent Simmons ‏@brentsimmons May 15

      A Hypothetical Responder Chain Written in Swift: http://inessential.com/2016/05/15/a_hypothetical_responder_chain_written_i …

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      Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

      @brentsimmons protocol RespondsToCopy { func copy() } if let copier = responder as? RespondsToCopy { return copier.copy() }

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      4:33 PM - 15 May 2016
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        1. Kan We Box It? ‏@CodaFi_ May 15

          @jckarter Ditch the responder chain as a pattern! It’s stringly-typed programming and a tree traversal, we can do better (Elm, for one)

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        2. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

          @CodaFi_ String typing doesn't seem inherent to the problem to me. The tree traversal is a reasonable model of focus in WIMP envs though

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        4. Kan We Box It? ‏@CodaFi_ May 15

          @jckarter It is relevant to runtime bloat of resp chain. Worst case (misspelled selector) O(~2n) messaging cost for NOTHING.

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        5. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

          @CodaFi_ How does Elm Arch handle focus? Unhandled events falling back to superview/window?

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        7. Kan We Box It? ‏@CodaFi_ May 15

          @jckarter NSWindow wants in, NSWindow needs to sub to the mailbox. Events come from CG only as far as I am concerned.

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        8. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

          @CodaFi_ Well part of the cocoa magic is that all just works, and works uniformly across apps. If dev has to do work , they won't do it

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        10. Kan We Box It? ‏@CodaFi_ May 15

          @jckarter I would be interested to know, e.g. How many XIBs have a selector wired to “first responder” vs a VC, etc.

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        12. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

          @CodaFi_ Probably more common on the desktop, where focus is more prominent and you have fixtures like the menu bar and key shortcuts

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        1. Jonathan Grynspan ‏@grynspan May 15 Mississauga, Ontario

          @jckarter @brentsimmons That's not really a tenable solution…

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        3. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter May 15

          @grynspan @brentsimmons Another formulation: responder methods return whether they were handled, with default imps returning false.

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        1. Ryan Gibson ‏@ryang_uk May 16

          @jckarter @brentsimmons I had a quick go at implementing a simple responder chain http://www.fatgrin.com/articles/swift-responder-chain.html …

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        3. Ölbaum ‏@oscherler May 17

          @ryang_uk @jckarter @brentsimmons Wow, so all this fuss around lack of performSelector in Swift is just about laziness to use protocols?

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        5. Brent Simmons ‏@brentsimmons May 17

          @oscherler @ryang_uk @jckarter No.

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      1. Patrick Smith ‏@concreteniche May 15

        @jckarter @brentsimmons Could use enums for each type of command:https://gist.github.com/BurntCaramel/fa36f3737fcfae0703c5df7c7831ed8f …

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