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employed ethicist • consumer of content • policy wonk @finesandfeesjc

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finesandfeesjusticecenter.org
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    1. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 2

      I'm not sure the incel argument is inherently misogynistic. They are turning to misogyny because there's no coherent explanation on the left. Maybe an easier way to think about it is female incels. Wouldn't we normally sympathize?https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html …

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    2. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
      Replying to @SoapboxO

      You gotta visit one of the forums to understand the misogyny. It’s not that celibacy is misogynistic—rather, the belief that men are owed sex from women and men can collectively fantasize about physically harming women who refuse them is misogyny.

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    3. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 2
      Replying to @jbenmenachem

      I can imagine, resentment and an incel echo chamber online. It's just that arguments have to be separated from the socialized misogyny. A sexual order with privileged wealthy white males at the top of the hierarchy is not my first thought for a leftist posture.

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    4. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
      Replying to @SoapboxO

      That’s so not what incels are protesting against. I’m a big fan of the @okcupid reports about racial bias in dating—but we don’t have any evidence to suggest that incels are not white and affluent. Also, there are better ways to respond to rejection. incels aren’t victims

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    5. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
      Replying to @jbenmenachem @SoapboxO @okcupid

      Men can support each other emotionally through rejection without drinking the kool-aid of self-victimization.

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    6. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 2
      Replying to @jbenmenachem @okcupid

      It's a mistake to focus on them and their misogynistic response. Because of the taint of how these questions arose, people seem uncomfortable digging deeper. Which is usually my cue to jump in :) As I said in my original post, examine a sexual order that creates female incels.

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      Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
      Replying to @SoapboxO @okcupid

      I think the concept of “woman incel”—as we currently understand the definition of “incel”—is incoherent. I agree that norms around sexuality question the personal value of those who have reduced access to sex, but don’t agree that a “root cause” analysis justifies incel behavior.

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        2. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 2
          Replying to @jbenmenachem @okcupid

          Well and that's the discomfort that I'm talking about. No one wants to confirm the existence of something that incels will use to justify misogyny. Just winging this topic, but I thought it's involuntarily celibate. Plenty of those women too, no?

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        3. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
          Replying to @SoapboxO @okcupid

          Jon Ben-Menachem Retweeted The Mountain Goats

          Involuntary celibacy itself is also incoherent.https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/989297058782830593?s=21 …

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          The Mountain GoatsVerified account @mountain_goats
          celibacy is a state of voluntary renunciation btw. no such thing as "involuntary celibacy." "incels" should be called "dwsoeisottptwgws," which is short for "dudes whose sense of entitlement is severely off-putting to the people they wanna get with." please fix this, thanks
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        4. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
          Replying to @jbenmenachem @SoapboxO @okcupid

          I’m sorry to be so hard-headed about this, but I think the argument for the justice of desire can easily be separated from the incel conversation. The majority of people who are harmed by inequitable desire politics are not incels.

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        5. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 2
          Replying to @jbenmenachem @okcupid

          It's all good. Misogyny is off-putting, and rightfully so. I like that: inequitable desire politics. Yes, somehow it has to be ok to confirm that there is this phenomenon of inequitable desire, but at the same time deny the incel's misogynistic response and entitlement.

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        6. Jon Ben-Menachem‏ @jbenmenachem May 2
          Replying to @SoapboxO @okcupid

          Jon Ben-Menachem Retweeted KT NELSON

          https://twitter.com/krangtnelson/status/991844212491542528?s=21 …

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          KT NELSON @KrangTNelson
          if you woke me up in the middle of the night and screamed “THERE’S A NEW ARTICLE ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD REDISTRIBUTE SEX TO INCELS, WHO WROTE IT?!” I would answer “oh definitely ross douthat” without missing a beat
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        7. #StillNotEqual‏ @SoapboxO May 3
          Replying to @jbenmenachem @okcupid

          #StillNotEqual Retweeted ella dawson

          I wasn't articulate enough on this subject, but I'm on board with this takehttps://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/991704241810046976 …

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          ella dawsonVerified account @brosandprose
          Our response to incels should NOT be a thought experiment about sex robots + government sex redistribution programs. It should be a blistering disavowal of their violent, misogynist worldview, and a conversation about creating a healthier, more respectful sexual culture for all.
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