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I teach journalism at NYU, critique the press, direct @membershippzzle. PressThink is the name of my subject and my site. Started blogging in 2003. Still at it.

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    1. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      Here is how the Los Angeles Times put it on July 14: “We shouldn’t rise to his bait, but how can we not? If we ignore him, we normalize his reckless behavior, and that’s even worse.” https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-aoc-squad-ilhan-bigoted-tweets-20190714-story.html … Welcome to my new THREAD, where I try to solve this problem. 1/

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    2. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      Jay Rosen Retweeted Julia Ioffe

      Here it is again in an observation by journalist @juliaioffe on July 18. https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1151868566087622656 … 2/

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      Julia IoffeVerified account @juliaioffe
      This is the fundamental problem of Trump: he provokes by saying horrific things that cannot go unchallenged, but in challenging them, you rev up him and his base to double down in delight (and sincere belief) and horrify you more, which means you have to challenge it again, etc.
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    3. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      On the Last Word with @Lawrence O'Donnell, July 16, @ezraklein of Vox felt a similar exasperation: "I don't know that it's strategy, but it's certainly at this point intuition, that if he loses control of the conversation, he can always say something outrageous... 3/

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    4. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      "... something offensive and then it is at least back along the divisive lines that he prefers arguing around. Again, the point is not that it is a strategy or even that it is wise, but he has figured out that there is this hack of just acting outrageously and offensively." 4/

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    5. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      All of them — the LA Times editors, Julia Ioffe, Ezra Klein on @Lawrence — are pointing to a problem with a common piece of advice given to journalists about how to cover Trump. The advice is: don't take the bait! Have you not said that to our press? I know I have. 5/

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    6. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      Don't let him control the news agenda — and don't let him change the subject — with methods that should be familiar by now: outrageous stunts, offensive remarks and reckless, tradition-busting behavior. He's like a toddler who wants attention. Ignore him! ...says this advice. 6/

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      Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

      The problem with "ignore him!" is that when it's the President of the United States indulging in it, behavior we might recognize as infantile and attention-getting can have huge effects beyond the manipulation of our domestic news cycle. 7/

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        2. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Journalists cannot ignore his acting out when it may have geopolitical consequences, or trigger suffering in real people, even when they know that Trump's latest outrage may be a ploy for news coverage, and the ploy may be part of an attention cycle in which they are caught. 8/

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        3. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          This problem is real, not just a matter of spine. If the President decides it's okay to say to some of his fellow Americans go back where you came from, or to advise elected members of Congress to leave the country if they have complaints about it... 9/

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        4. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          ...by what defensible code can journalists decline to share with their publics these surprising, disturbing, and consequential facts ("if you don't like it here, leave!") even IF they believe them to be a ploy for media attention or meant to keep his base in a pop-eyed state. 10/

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        5. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          There is no such code. They have to report it, because with the American executive it is often true that words are actions. If journalists took the advice never to take the bait they would often be taking a holiday from their most basic responsibility: to say what happened. 11/

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        6. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          But that is not the end of the story. We can do better than the mournful ask of the LA Times: “We shouldn’t rise to his bait, but how can we not? If we ignore him, we normalize his reckless behavior." Take the bait or normalize Trump: these are NOT the only choices. Read on! 12/

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        7. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Here are some options I think national newsrooms have: One is to suspend normal relations with the Trump government, a step I have written about before. http://pressthink.org/2018/06/its-time-for-the-press-to-suspend-normal-relations-with-the-trump-presidency/ … Each newsroom has to start asking: what "game" do we stop participating in with this government? 13/

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        8. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          For CNN, never going live to a Trump campaign event — on the grounds that you will inevitably broadcast falsehoods if you do so — would be a plausible start. Again, take the bait or normalize the toddler are not the only choices. Suspend normal relations is a further choice. 14/

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        9. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          If you don't want to take the bait, but you feel you cannot ignore — and by ignoring accept — his behavior, then a distinction worth making is between coverage in which Trump is the protagonist, and coverage where his actions are reported, but he is not the main character. 15/

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        10. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Jay Rosen Retweeted Antonia Hylton

          I bring to your attention this reply from Antonia Hylton, a producer and correspondent at Vice News. https://twitter.com/ahylton26/status/1151112204546191362 … 16/

          Jay Rosen added,

          Antonia HyltonVerified account @ahylton26
          Trump as protagonist VS coverage where his actions are reported but he is not the main character informs so much of our team’s immigration coverage. We spend way more time with immigrants & lawyers and in courtrooms than we do circling his orbit in dc. And it’s paid off. https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1150925209828040707 …
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        11. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          The Truth Sandwich is third on my list of choices newsrooms have beyond 'take the bait' or 'ignore the toddler.' First you say what is. Only then do you report his latest falsehood. Then you repeat what is actually the case. That is the truth sandwich. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/instead-of-trumps-propaganda-how-about-a-nice-truth-sandwich/2018/06/15/80df8c36-70af-11e8-bf86-a2351b5ece99_story.html … 17/

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        12. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Jay Rosen Retweeted Jay Rosen

          Number four on my list of choices newsrooms have beyond 'take the bait' or 'ignore the toddler' is to recognize that sometimes the news he made today is meant only to bring opacity to news he made yesterday. https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1152223575031635968 … That is gaslighting. It should be resisted. 18/

          Jay Rosen added,

          Jay RosenVerified account @jayrosen_nyu
          His claims that he tried to push back against "send her back" are a special category of news report, which exists only to confuse and erase earlier reports. By presenting — and fact-checking — these claims as if they're just the next round, journalists co-author this confusion.
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        13. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          People knew what the Spotlight team was for at Boston Globe, and sent things to it. They will learn what the Gaslight Desk is for and refer things to it. Imagine editors telling front line reporting teams not to bother with Trump's latest because Gaslight would be handling. 19/

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        14. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Fifth on my list of choices beyond 'take the bait' or 'ignore the toddler' is to anchor 2020 coverage in a transparent and public agenda that derives from a creative act of listening. http://pressthink.org/2019/06/key-steps-in-the-citizens-agenda-style-of-campaign-coverage/ … You have to know what your community wants the campaign to be about. 20/

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        15. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Newsrooms of America: You cannot keep from getting sucked into Trump’s agenda without a firm grasp on your own. But where does that agenda come from? It can’t come from the journalists. Who cares what they think? It has to originate with the voters you are trying to inform. 21/

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        16. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          Summarizing my tips for the American press: Suspend normal relations with the Trump regime. Try it this way: his actions are reported, but he is not the main character. Move the Truth Sandwich up on your menu. Open a Gaslight Desk. Anchor your journalism in a citizens agenda. 22/

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        17. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          We know it's coming: more outrageous stunts and offensive remarks. More reckless, otherizing behavior. All of it fully newsworthy by pre-Trump standards. But are those the right standards, now that we have seen repeated "this hack of just acting outrageously and offensively?" 23/

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        18. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 21 Jul 2019

          No, you shouldn't rise to his bait. But that doesn't mean you can ignore him, either. Journalists need more agile and creative options beyond these two. That is what this thread has been about. Thanks for following it to the end. 24/

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