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    Jeremy Ashkenas‏Verified account @jashkenas 1 Jun 2017

    In his new book, @munificentbob argues against implicit variable declaration. But pretty code is flat! Really! Don’t closure irrelvant vars!pic.twitter.com/ILb5EwnsoT

    8:30 AM - 1 Jun 2017
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      2. Bob Nystrom‏ @munificentbob 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas

        Yeah, flatter is better, but "flat" doesn't mean as flat as it used to. Higher-order fns are everywhere. Classes add a level of nesting.

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      3. Jeremy Ashkenas‏Verified account @jashkenas 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @munificentbob

        Even w/ classes full of methods with higher-order fn’s, you still don’t really want intentional shadowing in a given lexical scope. No need.

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      4. Bob Nystrom‏ @munificentbob 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas

        Probably not, but how do you *know* if adding an outer variable changes the meaning of an existing inner one?

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      2. ᎬᎡᎥᏦ‏ @erikcorry 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas @munificentbob

        100% with Bob on this. "var " is not much clutter to avoid a misspelling becoming a brand new variable. What does that last sentence mean?

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      3. Jeremy Ashkenas‏Verified account @jashkenas 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @erikcorry @munificentbob

        “Avoiding typos" isn’t a great reason for prog’n syntax. `http://obj.property  =` has same misspell concerns. Autocomplete, testing, etc.

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      4. ᎬᎡᎥᏦ‏ @erikcorry 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas @munificentbob

        Yes 'obj.propety =' has the same concerns which is why I'd never want a lang that allowed that. Should be an error at compile- or run-time.

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      2. Hadley Wickham‏Verified account @hadleywickham 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas @munificentbob

        R has two different assignment operators to overcome this issue: <- binds locally, <<- reuses existing

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      3. Bob Nystrom‏ @munificentbob 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @hadleywickham @jashkenas

        Interesting! I had a hobby language that worked that way too, but I didn't realize it had been done before.

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      1. David Brady‏ @dbrady 1 Jun 2017
        Replying to @jashkenas @munificentbob

        +1. The best languages IMO let you make important stuff look important, unimportant stuff look small, and irrelevant stuff disappear

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