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    Jamie K  🏳️‍🌈‏ @jamiebuilds Aug 31

    .@GCPcloud: Please stop using the terms "master" and "slave" to describe softwarehttps://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/click-to-deploy/pull/209 …

    12:32 PM - 31 Aug 2018
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      2. Alan @  🌉‏ @Caust1c Aug 31
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Agent. leader/follower. Passlist/blocklist. Promote change through language. 🏳️‍🌈

        4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
      3. nick‏ @nkcmr Aug 31
        Replying to @Caust1c @jamiebuilds

        “passlist / blocklist” — i have been looking for this alternate forever! i am the typical programmer: bad at naming things.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Alan @  🌉‏ @Caust1c Aug 31
        Replying to @nkcmr @jamiebuilds

        I think I actually use allowlist and blocklist now. Just couldn't remember the term in the moment

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Jakub Veverka‏ @jwerak Sep 1
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        @bbccomedy: When you so woke, you asleep. 😜pic.twitter.com/wy6q4R2rNF

        BBC Comedy
        1 reply 3 retweets 16 likes
      3. Chris Carr‏ @carrchr Sep 1
        Replying to @jwerak @bbccomedy

        OMG that was awesome. That’s the lady who’s show spawned the Simpsons cartoon, isn’t it? Tracey Ullman? Glad the Brits can still pull off some biting sarcasm.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Jakub Veverka‏ @jwerak Sep 1
        Replying to @carrchr @bbccomedy

        I don't know, but I will definitely have a closer look :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Lunster‏ @lunster81 Aug 31
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        This is getting absurd. I can *completely* understand the ridicule you're getting on Git. Keep your naive politics out of software development. In fact, you know Git is an insult, right? Shall we change that, to placate a complete non-issue? The far left undermines itself.

        1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
      3. Lunster‏ @lunster81 Aug 31
        Replying to @lunster81 @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        The hardest thing in computer science just became another SJW meme. They #resist by being so cringeworthy, demonstrating such poor understanding of words and pragmatic context, submitting code without testing to make a "political" point. It's Owellian Newspeak. Read some books.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      4. Redgrin Grumble‏ @aronchick Sep 1
        Replying to @lunster81 @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Can you say more? Looks like the original person who wrote the package used the wrong term. Jenkins uses master/worker, and that's what it should be.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Lunster‏ @lunster81 Sep 1
        Replying to @aronchick @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        These words are simple abstractions that have a completely different pragmatic context to that of those dishonestly suggested by idealogues vicariously defending a fictional group of potentially offended people. As a long-time anti-theist, the religious parallels are disturbing

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      6. Redgrin Grumble‏ @aronchick Sep 1
        Replying to @lunster81 @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Shouldn't you be taking this complaint up with the Jenkins folks? Or are you suggesting we come up with our own arbitrary terms?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Lunster‏ @lunster81 Sep 1
        Replying to @aronchick @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        You're being disingenuous, the discussion in the pull request speaks for itself.,

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Redgrin Grumble‏ @aronchick Sep 1
        Replying to @lunster81 @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Ok, well, I'm going to say that following the naming of the underlying project is probably the best bet. Thanks for all your other thoughts, though.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Lunster‏ @lunster81 Sep 1
        Replying to @aronchick @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        I'm concerned about the word "class", it has overloaded connotations and I think it will be offensive to those who have indirectly suffered from a non-liberal, class-based society. Can we change class to be less offensive, like set? I'm also concerned about whiteboard, git, ajax

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      2. Felipe  🌺‏ @crochi Aug 31
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Even if the change is positive, how would we deal with all the books / software that have been using the terms prior to this? The terms "master" and "slave" would still need to be referenced after the change, so people would find their meanings in the literature / lectures / etc

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Moti Zilberman‏ @motiz88 Sep 1
        Replying to @crochi @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Seriously: We _have_ mechanisms for handling change in these things. Books can have new editions with new notes / index entries ("master/slave: see leader/follower") and software can have new versions with deprecation notices and migration guides. None of this is rocket science.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      1. SavePointSam‏ @SavePointSam Aug 31
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Why is there so much fight against this? Their argument is mostly, ‘they are just words.’ COOL. SO, CHANGING THEM SHOULDN’T BE A BIG DEAL TO YOU.

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      1. Sufyan Abbasi‏ @sufsters Aug 31
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        You have rational, legitimate arguments for proposing the change and instead you're met with irrational, baseless apprehension. The most terrible thing of all is that slavery still exists today...

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      1. Ronnie Pelton‏ @ronzillapelton Sep 1
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Wow gotta love that brogrammer pushback. I absolutely despise the, "Well I'm offended that you're offended," response. Really toxic bad faith bs.

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      1. nick‏ @NickColley Sep 3
        Replying to @jamiebuilds @GCPcloud

        Thx for putting up with all the toxic comments in that thread. People getting in the way to block such a small change.

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