James Thomson
Losing iOS 7 support means losing a bunch of older devices like iPhone 4. Not ideal for education who tend to have older stuff.
Xcode 8 no longer supports iOS 7 as a deployment target, so if you add support for iOS 10, you'll lose iOS 7 supportpic.twitter.com/SiCSkSszR7
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@jamesthomson on the other hand, iOS 7 was a buggy nightmare. :P -
@BigZaphod Well, true, but I don't like dropping support for a system unless I have a technical reason for doing so! - View other replies
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@jamesthomson@BigZaphod I would definitely call the development tool not supporting it "technical" in nature.
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@Fahrni@BigZaphod Well, true, it's just not my decision :)
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@jamesthomson@CocoaSamurai Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but don’t you mean, “…so if you add iOS 10 specific features, …?” -
@wreimers@CocoaSamurai It's not exactly that - basically you can't build with the latest tools. -
@jamesthomson@CocoaSamurai Right, you can’t target iOS 7 with the iOS 10 SDK in Xcode 8, but apps built with Xcode 7 still run on iOS 10. -
@jamesthomson@CocoaSamurai I realize it’s a semantic detail, but I’m a programmer. iOS 10 support doesn’t mean losing iOS 7 support. -
@wreimers@CocoaSamurai Sure, existing apps run fine - this was just aimed at pointing out that you can’t build an iOS 7 app with Xcode 8.
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@jamesthomson (but also not impossible, just hackish) -
@steipete Yes, true, but unless you’re linking against the iOS 10 SDK, you won’t get up-to-date behaviour on APIs.
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@jamesthomson we dropped iOS 7 a few months ago. Now we’re talking about dropping 8 when iOS 10 is out. -
@mike3k I always like to support back as far as I can, when there's no technical reason not to.
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@jamesthomson we did it for the new push notifications. We’re considering going 10 only for CallKit.
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@jamesthomson I think that's just the drop down. You can manually set it to 7.0. I did but I still have a couple of other issues to fix. -
@danimal The message seemed pretty unambiguous - we shall see! -
@jamesthomson agreed. I can't claim victory on it yet, but I’ll let you know if I do :) -
@jamesthomson back on Xcode 8 work now and damn this is going to be a lot of work. So much deprecated/changed.
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@jamesthomson You can still support iOS 10, but not use the latest Xcode and you'll have a pretty hard time accessing new iOS 10 APIS.
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