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Jake Clayson

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A paterfamilias with an MFA in nonfiction: I'm an essayist, entrepreneur, and creative director interested in product management.

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    1. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 6
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      But the reality is that they're not martyrs. They're unable to receive money from paypal or companies like that, and they've been relegated to 8chan and Gab. Lots of data to prove that their reach dramatically shrinks.https://mashable.com/article/milo-yiannopoulos-deplatforming-alex-jones/ …

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    2. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 6
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      For now... but if you deplatform enough of them and tick off their combined audiences...?

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    3. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 6
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      Then they have to make their own platform. And they won’t/can’t.

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    4. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 6
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      They haven’t had a need to until recently. How can you be so sure they won’t/can’t?

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    5. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 7
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      I guess they could, but their power is in mainstreaming themselves, not being stuck in their own echo chamber. If they were smarter, they’d just play by the platform’s rules to keep the audience they want. Don’t know Rubin.

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    6. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 7
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      It sounds like you see “mainstream” and “echo chamber” as mutually exclusive categories? Wouldn’t you consider cable news a class of echo chamber? Do we legit have pundits from any one of them routinely engaging one another, or any well-rep. counter argument in good faith?

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    7. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 7
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      On some level, we all construct our own echo chambers with voices that affirm our own views. But the way markets and algorithms have segmented us has exacerbated this problem. And I see #VoxAdpocolypse as an extension of this dangerous trend.

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    8. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 7
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      Yeah cool but I see people that think they can openly be racist, homophobic and sexist in public discourse as a more dangerous trend. Just to be straight - you’re arguing for them to stay platformed spewing hate speech, right?

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    9. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 7
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      I’d rather have hate speech out in the open for the same reason I want transparency in government; I want dangerous hate and lies exposed where it can be addressed, not hidden in the shadows where it can grow and conspire.

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    10. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 7
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      When I hear “out in the open” I just hear you wanting it legitimized on the same level as rational thought. It can still be found. These people write articles and books, but we don’t need to have a debate about why they think certain people are lesser.

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      Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 7
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      How does “out in the open” equate to legitimized? Does being on YT really legitimize a viewpoint? I’ll buy that inviting them onto a national TV show for debate can do that, but not a democratized platform that hosts all sorts of crap indiscriminately.

      9:41 AM - 7 Jun 2019
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        2. Mikemical Romance‏ @mikeczyk Jun 7
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          I guess could you point me to someone that was deplatformed or that has had their content censored that wasn't breaking TOS? I'm having a real hard time finding your angle.

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        3. Jake Clayson‏ @jakeclayson Jun 7
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          Not sure. Again, any company is free to deplatform for TOS breaches. Maybe this is one - haven’t looked into it, only watched a few Crowder vids long ago. No 1st Amndt. has been violated, but the CULTURE of free speech and debate is stifled when we rush to deplatform.

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