Jake Archibald

@jaffathecake a framework gives you a set of rules to follow. A library allows you to set your own rules. Both have benefits & disadvantages

@neneodonkor I really like Django as it's a framework that feels like it's built of libraries.

@jaffathecake so does ya image describe one as better than the other?

@neneodonkor I prefer libraries. Easier to reason about small units than one big one. Easier to deal with a library issue than a framework 1

@jaffathecake oh cool :). And what is Django about?

@neneodonkor python web framework https://www.djangoproject.com/ 

@jaffathecake django looks like javascript

@neneodonkor django isn't a language. It's a framework on top of python.

@neneodonkor exactly, framework gives a set of rules that could be lifesavers in a large team as @brianmgonzalez pointed /cc @jaffathecake

@dmtrsslvdr @brianmgonzalez @jaffathecake hmmm I kinda prefer libraries

@neneodonkor @dmtrsslvdr @brianmgonzalez I don't mind frameworks that involve me from start to end (Django)…

@neneodonkor @dmtrsslvdr @brianmgonzalez what I hate is when a framework won't let me do the performant thing, because it's not "the way"

@jaffathecake @brianmgonzalez "the way" is good for a large team. a path is needed for a consistency, I prefer libraries for DRY communities

@dmtrsslvdr @brianmgonzalez if "the way" gets in the way, it's the wrong way.

@jaffathecake @smashingmag if the app is sufficiently complex, both pictures have the large number of components, but only one has docs

@mrclay_org @smashingmag libraries don't have docs?

@jaffathecake @smashingmag I'm saying there's no free lunch. Apps constructed "of libs" can't magically have fewer components

@jaffathecake the library situation seems like least worst to me

@triblondon @jaffathecake Agree with Andrew. There's an upfront investment, but the long term benefits are huge.

@phuunet you may have misread @triblondon's tweet

@jaffathecake @triblondon Oh. Yes indeed. Statement retracted-ish. They're tools. Meh.

I like libraries, but I've seen low-level primitives be a problem in the hands of a less experienced team (i.e. It Depends™, shockingly)

I AM STILL FURIOUS

Haha, how the heck did this end up in my timeline? Oh @Twitter, we love you.