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    1. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

      jacobian Retweeted Devon

      Pay maintainers. Everything else is noise.https://twitter.com/devonzuegel/status/1086038309921583105 …

      jacobian added,

      Devon @devonzuegel
      Hello to OSS maintainers and contributors! 👋 As @GitHub's new OSS product manager, I want to hear about the challenges you face and how we could do more to support you. If you'd like to share your perspective, please fill out the form here: https://github.blog/2019-01-17-lets-talk-about-open-source-sustainability …
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    2. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

      GitHub made... how much? ... being bought by Microsoft. Want to "do more" to support OSS? Give the proceeds to the open source projects that enabled that success. I'll be generous - y'all can keep half.

      2 replies 7 retweets 51 likes
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    3. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

      But for serious - if companies actually cared about open source sustainability instead of virtue signaling, they'd turn those massive exits into windfalls for open source maintainers and foundations.

      3 replies 17 retweets 63 likes
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      jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

      My point is this: the root cause of oss burnout is money. The only way to solve it is money. Tech companies make billions off oss and give almost nothing back. They could solve the problem today and barely dent their bottom lines.

      3:06 PM - 18 Jan 2019
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        2. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

          I'm surprised at how angry this makes me! I think it's because I'm understanding that we were sold a bill of goods. We convinced ourselves that open source was Good For The World when in fact it was Good For Jeff Bezos (etc). We gave diamonds away and got peanuts in return.

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        3. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18

          Capitalism Finds A Way(tm)

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        2. Documentation Demon‏ @plaindocs Jan 18
          Replying to @jacobian

          is there any kind of estimate as to how much we'd be talking about there?

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        3. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18
          Replying to @plaindocs

          It'd take less than $1m/yr to make @djangoproject incredibly sustainable. It's an averagish sized codebase. Let's say a thousand projects out there, that's a billion dollars. Google alone made $33 bn in Q3.

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        2. TennesseeLeeuwenburg‏ @tleeuwenburg Jan 18
          Replying to @jacobian @freakboy3742

          So change the license terms? Does the nature of the license need updating to reflect the social contract that's really needed?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Russell Keith-Magee‏ @freakboy3742 Jan 18
          Replying to @tleeuwenburg @jacobian

          I am coming to the opinion that this may be necessary. The problem I find is that any suggestion that the Open Source Definition (or worse - the Free Software Definition) may be incomplete or require modification is met with… an unhelpful response.

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        4. jacobian‏ @jacobian Jan 18
          Replying to @freakboy3742 @tleeuwenburg

          Yes - if you propose non-free licenses you're a heretic to The Cause. But ultimately I think it doesn't matter: the tech industry now is strong enough to just route around as AWS did with Mongo. I think we just have to face the fact that it's fundamentally broken.

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        2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal Jan 31
          Replying to @jacobian

          I don't agree. I've burned out a few times and money hasn't been a factor. I've pushed myself harder than I should have and eventually hit a breaking point. Money wouldn't have solved it, it would have made it worse and increased the pressure.

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        3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal Jan 31
          Replying to @mikeal @jacobian

          Money is an important aspect of sustainablility, and I'm all for paying maintainers, but I do think it is likely to make burnout worse. When people are burning out they need to stop for a while. That's actually easier without their livelihood directly tied to the work.

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