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Jackfruit from the Internet. "Ein Tier, das nur in der Gesellschaft sich vereinzeln kann." - Marx "Blam[es] on his boots the faults of his feet." - Beckett

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    1. Marty "Celsus" MacMarty‏ @martymacmarty 3 Apr 2020

      Marty "Celsus" MacMarty Retweeted

      I'm sorry but it's been obvious from day one that there's a strong likelihood that this was a natural bat virus collected for study in a lab that then escaped. It's a hell of a coincidence that the new killer bat virus emerged right next to the center for studies of bat viruses. https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/1246153609210970116 …

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    2. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @martymacmarty

      I mean it wouldn't be the first time someone carelessly handled viruses in a lab

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    3. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @runclepennybags @martymacmarty

      SARS escaped a lab multiple times iirc. It's certainly nowhere out of the realm of possibility, though I believe the theory entails passing it through an intermediate host. Ferrets have the right receptors.

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    4. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags @martymacmarty

      You know what they also sell in wet markets? Ferrets. So either way this fun little experiment was going on with some mammal constantly exposed to bat coronavirus until it adapted to transmit between them.

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    5. Marty "Celsus" MacMarty‏ @martymacmarty 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags

      As far as I know there's no evidence yet for an intermediary between bats and humans although there isn't evidence that excludes it. The intermediate host was a way to explain why it broke out in the market that doesn't sell bats next to the lab that studies bat viruses.

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      JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 3 Apr 2020
      Replying to @martymacmarty @runclepennybags

      Yes but to my understanding the evidence doesn't suggest 'direct' bioengineering in the sense of gene editing - thence the 'debunking' of it being man-made. The best way to apply selective pressure to a pathogen is to give it a new host and let it figure things out on its own.

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        2. Marty "Celsus" MacMarty‏ @martymacmarty 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags

          Nowhere have I claimed it's manmade and I explicitly in the thread said it was likely natural.

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        3. Marty "Celsus" MacMarty‏ @martymacmarty 3 Apr 2020
          Replying to @martymacmarty @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags

          Virology labs have lots of viruses in them that are natural. In fact, that is primarily what they study.

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