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    1. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      12. But that's not the worst part. We have literally over a century's history of mathematical modeling epidemic progression. Some look somewhat bell-like. Others don't. It depends on the circumstances, details of the virus, behavior of the population, interventions, etc.

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    2. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      13. [pause to take beta-blockers]

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    3. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      14. This is unsubstantiated bullshit. IF the bell-curve were a "law of nature", it shouldn't necessarily apply to the vast range of human responses that people take to stop epidemics. Yet this assertion is supported with data from places where interventions slowed things down.pic.twitter.com/ASrkdKzj6p

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    4. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      15. Wait, are already breaking the data down by country? We were cautioned against that as being misleading just a few paragraphs ago!

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    5. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      16. Ah, Farr's law. I don't know how the author could have more effectively discredited himself to the epidemiology community with any two other words. It's an old rule-of-thumb that suggests epidemics take a bell-curve shape. BUT....pic.twitter.com/QOWxeUzQmT

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    6. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      17. When I teach ID epidemiology OR data science, I tend to have my students read this 1990 paper as a cautionary tail against non-mechanistic modeling. http://documents.aidswiki.net/PHDDC/BREG.PDF  It uses Farr's law to predict the size of the HIV epidemic.pic.twitter.com/3dKhSuiMQG

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    7. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      18. The authors conclude that the HIV epidemic will encompass roughly 200,000 cases before fading away in the mid 1990s. This graph is from the original paper. You can't make this shit up.pic.twitter.com/RogE3sISuC

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    8. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      19. Next up a very, very basic fallacy about the effect of flattening the curve. Almost *any* reasonable epidemiological model you use, from SIR to all sorts of fancy spatial PDE or agent-based approaches, will show that decreasing transmission rate decreases total epidemic size.pic.twitter.com/kWjGl2sVhZ

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    9. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

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      20. This is common sense, as well as first-chapter-of-the-epidemiology-textbook stuff. It was also sadly predictable. See my note about severe #DKE19 strains, a day before @aginnt's medium post:https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1240803788035784704 …

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      Carl T. BergstromVerified account @CT_Bergstrom
      Not in the report, but particularly virulent strains include "The areas under curve should be the same, dumbass!", "What's so hard about estimating CFR?", and "Who needs the Harvard School of Public Health when you've got Elon Musk?"
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    10. Carl T. Bergstrom‏Verified account @CT_Bergstrom 21 Mar 2020

      21. This claim needs citation. I am unaware of CDC plans that involve allowing the majority of the country to be infected. Because the author may be cherry-picking here, I won't call it an outright lie. But it's not the position of the organization that we allow this to happen.pic.twitter.com/yiGKFLEvdR

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      JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 21 Mar 2020
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      Not the stated position, but can reasonably be inferred from the overall approach leading up to March.

      8:03 PM - 21 Mar 2020
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