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Jackfruit from the Internet. "Ein Tier, das nur in der Gesellschaft sich vereinzeln kann." - Marx "Blam[es] on his boots the faults of his feet." - Beckett

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    1. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020

      I think the familiar culture-war/racial veneer kind of obscures that the insistence on the name "Chinese virus" is primarily intended to lay the blame at the feet of the PRC.

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    2. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020

      Not that I'm offering original analysis here, but the minute the "democracies are better at handling pandemics" victory lap became untenable, they shifted gears and we started hear about how China was to blame for/was going to take advantage of the virus.

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    3. kingo's pallbearer‏ @goblinpunk9 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @runclepennybags

      blaming/having fits about china seems so absolutely old-fashioned since it was the big neocon "justify our ideology" totem pre-9/11. it seems now that the fear-mongering about islam fails to move anyone outside of the chud demographic they're going back to the greatest hits

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    4. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @goblinpunk9

      Well there are two big reasons afaict: 1) China and Russia make far more plausible adversaries to justify unlimited military spending than ragtag militias 2) China's economic growth actually does threaten US hegemonic status and they won't consent to be junior partners

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    5. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @runclepennybags @goblinpunk9

      The TPP and "pivot to Asia" were the liberal aesthetic answers to the same question really

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    6. Apes of Wrath‏ @chimponsey 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @runclepennybags @goblinpunk9

      There's already a wing of the GOP that is ready to call it Chinesium Sneezium or whatever the fuck, as both evidence and reason to put boots on the ground in Asia. They want a shooting war because we blinked first on the trade war and it's made them extremely grumpy

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    7. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @chimponsey @runclepennybags @goblinpunk9

      Nobody wants war with China. China has a billion people and a formidable military. It would be more suicidal than invading Iran by an order of magnitude.

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    8. kingo's pallbearer‏ @goblinpunk9 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @chimponsey @runclepennybags

      neocons and their ideological progeny infect every american institution and all of them have spent essentially every waking moment since the end of the cold war trying to find a way to justify keeping the cold war going and maintain a dynamic that favors their political milieu

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    9. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @goblinpunk9 @chimponsey @runclepennybags

      "Neocon ideology" got routed in Iraq and New Orleans. Americans hate China for taking their factories and undercutting their wages, not for being the yellow peril.

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    10. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @goblinpunk9 @chimponsey

      The current policy of decoupling and "Great Power Conflict" is not driven by the average American's burning desire for proxy war with China

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      JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 19 Mar 2020
      Replying to @runclepennybags @goblinpunk9 @chimponsey

      There is no current policy of decoupling. Nobody is proposing it and nobody is acting on it. Americans want to decouple, Trump wants fame, the MIC wants contracts (the 'proxy war') and all other businesses want cheap labor.

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        2. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 19 Mar 2020
          Replying to @jackfruitstaken @goblinpunk9 @chimponsey

          So it's just the average Joe driving an all-fronts assault on Huawei or whatever? I don't see it.

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        3. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 19 Mar 2020
          Replying to @runclepennybags @goblinpunk9 @chimponsey

          I'll believe there's an all out assault on Chinese manufacturing when I get offered a job at a smartphone factory.

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