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Jackfruit from the Internet. "Ein Tier, das nur in der Gesellschaft sich vereinzeln kann." - Marx "Blam[es] on his boots the faults of his feet." - Beckett

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    1. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 10 Mar 2020

      we love to move a virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger. this word salad definitely justifies altering a virus specifically to make it capable of infecting humans, to me

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    2. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 10 Mar 2020

      Oedipa Maas Retweeted Madeleine Thompson

      lmao this guy is doing Sanjay Gupta episodes about """hunting""" the virus right nowhttps://twitter.com/mad_th/status/1237022303638224896 …

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      Madeleine Thompson @mad_th
      🚨 new ep 🚨 of #coronavirus: fact vs fiction. @drsanjaygupta talks to real-life ~virus hunter~ @PeterDaszak about tracing the origins of this outbreak. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/virus-hunters/id1501029683?i=1000467849724 …
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    3. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 10 Mar 2020

      I haven't listened but to be clear, they did not *find* or "hunt" this virus capable of infecting people in the wild somewhere, they purposefully created it for this study to show it was "more possible than they had thought" as part of their "gain-of-function" researchpic.twitter.com/13i3vkd73s

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    4. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 10 Mar 2020

      still Extremely Upset about this story. even assuming the research is innocent, the only point of it would be to demonstrate that with some VERY unlucky evolution, it's *distantly* plausible that something like COVID-19 could have come from a natural population. which ... ......

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    5. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @bridgietherease

      I think what they showed was that it wasn't distant at all. Indeed, it had already happened twice by the time that study came out.

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    6. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken

      you're saying there were two other coronavirus outbreaks?

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    7. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @bridgietherease

      Yes, SARS and MERS were both coronaviruses.

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    8. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken

      sorry, was just about to delete & rephrase once I realized what you meant! if that was the case though, they could research the ways it had already done so, no? not create new ones? also, https://www.the-scientist.com/news-analysis/sars-escaped-beijing-lab-twice-50137 …

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    9. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @bridgietherease

      I think there's value in watching for future threats. There's a bird flu in China that kills humans mercilessly (at least 30% CFR) but has never gone person to person. I'll agree we shouldn't play around but we have to watch for what might happen.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9 …

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    10. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken

      I tend to disagree - how would you distinguish this from a covert biological weapons program, for example?

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      JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 12 Mar 2020
      Replying to @bridgietherease

      Well in some sense that's exactly what it is. The reason researchers don't see it that way is that nobody actually gains anything from releasing one of these bad boys. And it highlights the fact that animal keeping practices create free range viral weapon projects.

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        1. Oedipa Maas‏ @bridgietherease 12 Mar 2020
          Replying to @jackfruitstaken

          idk, not buying it personally. "someone" would have a lot to gain from releasing the right thing in the right way, that is not convincing to me at all

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