This is an interesting and provocative response to the idea that when dudes complain about being unable to find a partner (for sex or a long-term relationship), it's automatically 'entitlement.' I'd always felt uncomfortable with that claim but never really thought through why.https://twitter.com/CaYD4D/status/1209628511037771776 …
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2/I think there are two reasons people go the LOL LOSER ENTITLED MANBABY route when encountering the idea of men who are genuinely lonely and starting to get resentful/angry about it: -If you're Too Online, you've probably had runins with aggressive MRA/PUA/incel types, and they
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3/ are horrible. So you come to correlate "MUH SEXLESSNLESS" with those communities. Not entirely unreasonable because they talk about it the most! -Just-World Fallacy. The universe is chaos, human virtues and traits are distributed randomly, and there's a subset of people who
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4/ are always going to be pretty lonely and romantically unfulfilled. This is sad to think about! It becomes less sad, or at least a bit more ordered, if you tag those guys with a label like 'entitled' that implies it's partially their fault.
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I've gotten people to admit out loud that for aesthetic-political reasons it *has to* be their fault. Proud moment https://twitter.com/aledleledlele/status/1186371760599339008?s=21 …
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Can you explain this further? I don't see how that's what that person is saying. Aren't they just saying that it *is* their fault, rather than that it has to be?
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That's what they think the study in question shows, which is why they're taking exception to the methodology and making up a frankly preposterous Gay Awakening in the decade between 2008 and 2018
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In fact, what the study *seems to show* is that it's more difficult now for men to have sex with women than it was ten years ago. That seems intuitively correct to me, but Not All Men seem to have the same experience.
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More importantly, there doesn't appear to be any data to the contrary. When someone refuses to accept numbers because they can be read to show the wrong group being 'victims' - that's ideology baby
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Yeah true. Do you really think this is evidence of men being victims of something though? Seems a weird way of conceptualizing interpersonal relationships.
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Not men as such, no. I think relationships are increasingly subject to market forces and everyone without property suffers.
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