It's rather difficult to have such a convo without it becoming a "who's life is shitier debate". That debate is largely counterproductive,with rich whites like Trump laughing all the way to the bank while we have it. What's actionable? Needs to be the question of the day.
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A party of one is preferable to a party of one and one-thousand negatives. One decent person, flanked by a hundred orcs, just looks like an orc.
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If my interest is equality, safety, prosperity for every person, and they're only interested in those things for their in-group, and hostile to them for their out-groups, supporting them is actually going to make MY goal harder, because they'll have more power to resist it. See?
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