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Jackfruit from the Internet. "Ein Tier, das nur in der Gesellschaft sich vereinzeln kann." - Marx "Blam[es] on his boots the faults of his feet." - Beckett

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    1.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur 17 Sep 2019

      Anyone else find it weird that Tucker Carlson has been a host on Fox for ten years and no one gave a fuck about him until last year when he started advocating economic views outside of the neoliberal consensus and then suddenly he's the paradigm expression of white nationalism?

      29 replies 33 retweets 329 likes
    2. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 17 Sep 2019
      Replying to @anti_minotaur

      I suppose everyone recognizes that the actually-existing Democratic party doesn't have an answer to his economic rhetoric and for some the answer is to try to put the genie back in the bottle rather than embracing a Sanders-style message

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 17 Sep 2019
      Replying to @runclepennybags @anti_minotaur

      Not just the democratic party. Huge swaths of the ostensible left have no answer.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    4. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 17 Sep 2019
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags @anti_minotaur

      Many leftists want open borders and global wage parity because that's the only moral future they can imagine. It bothers them when rightists point out that this makes the working class poorer overall, because they were hoping nobody would notice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    5. trailer trash zach braff‏ @bonecamaro 17 Sep 2019
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags @anti_minotaur

      I agree to the extent that open borders is an incoherent position driven by moral values, but by the same token, it’s not ipso facto true that more immigration wd be bad for normal ppl in the economy — most economists (imperfect measure, I know) find the opposite

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    7. trailer trash zach braff‏ @bonecamaro 18 Sep 2019

      econ sucks and I certainly don't consider it a "science," but outside of predictive modeling and other suspect uses like that, it tries its best to be an empirical measure, which is superior to just arguing "I think such and such" certainly agree it has little room for QoL

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    8. trailer trash zach braff‏ @bonecamaro 18 Sep 2019
      Replying to @bonecamaro @jackfruitstaken and

      just seems the person replied to was doing the flip of what they were complaining about: they're wrong because they're moralizing (they are), I'm right because I'm not (doesn't follow). I can reply that immigrants boost production and demand, and then we need numbers etc

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    9. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 18 Sep 2019
      Replying to @bonecamaro @runclepennybags @anti_minotaur

      My post did not criticize increased immigration. It was specifically criticizing a left for whom *unrestricted* immigration - handing a passport to anyone who asks - *and* wage parity are *baseline demands*.

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    10. JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 18 Sep 2019
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @bonecamaro and

      These can't be front-line minimum demands because they are the stretch goals of capital, shit Murdoch and Bezos and the rest couldn't even ask for in public. If you ask for 25 dollar minimum wage, prison abolition, OB and Medicare for all: you get OB.

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      JF‏ @jackfruitstaken 18 Sep 2019
      Replying to @jackfruitstaken @bonecamaro and

      Similarly, if you ask for wage parity all down the line, everyone takes a pay cut. Even those at the very bottom, but the poverty will be distributed in a very progressive way among the working class, because it has no bargaining power and its allies insist it's overpaid

      8:19 AM - 18 Sep 2019
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        2. trailer trash zach braff‏ @bonecamaro 18 Sep 2019
          Replying to @jackfruitstaken @runclepennybags @anti_minotaur

          trailer trash zach braff Retweeted trailer trash zach braff

          I assumed you're not saying no immigration and don't see much point talking about OB tbh, bc it's so incoherent -- I'm interested in what an actual left perspective on immigration should be, and I think it goes along these lines:https://twitter.com/bonecamaro/status/1174340095991848961?s=20 …

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          trailer trash zach braff @bonecamaro
          Replying to @bonecamaro @jackfruitstaken and 2 others
          fwiw I did some reading after this, and here's an interesting case study -- ignore the cranky editorializing on NC -- it suggests smtg we could've assumed as leftists, that the wage problem w/ migrant labor is due more to exploitation, not labor supply: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/11/new-research-australias-immigration-system-undercuts-workers.html …
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        3. Rich Uncle Pennybags‏ @runclepennybags 18 Sep 2019
          Replying to @bonecamaro @jackfruitstaken @anti_minotaur

          I would prefer to see fewer visas tied to work status and easier entry for family members of US persons. Also probably the rules of the work ones should be altered so workers have actual bargaining power. Just my impressionistic response, not sure if it makes sense for "the Left"

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