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    1. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21

      Owen Williams  ⚡ Retweeted jack

      honestly just change SOMETHING at this point LITERALLY ANY CHANGE IS ENOUGH. Stop being scared of your user base and just do something, anythinghttps://twitter.com/jack/status/1020767835667120128 …

      Owen Williams  ⚡ added,

      jackVerified account @jack
      Fundamentally, we need to focus more on the conversational dynamics within Twitter. We haven’t paid enough consistent attention here. Better organization, more context, helping to identify credibility, ease of use. Challenging work and would love to hear your thoughts and ideas.
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      jack‏Verified account @jack Jul 21
      Replying to @ow

      Not really fair Owen. We’ve made some pretty big changes that also angered people. We aren’t fearful of doing the right thing.

      1:43 PM - 21 Jul 2018
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        2. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21
          Replying to @jack

          Sure, we saw 280 and a few other things but can we do more? Audiences? Lists? Business Twitter? Those changes were fine, but not that bold. Lots of region locked news stuff, but has largely remained the same since user feedback used to push it forward, and I miss that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Bram Kanstein‏Verified account @bramk Jul 21
          Replying to @ow @jack

          EDIT button please 🙃

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        2. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21
          Replying to @jack

          All I'm saying is I know how much crazy stuff is built internally and dies at the hand of ambivalence. 10,000 character attachments being an example that's public; so where's the Twitter The Service vision?

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Jeffrey Richman  🎃‏ @jcrichman Jul 21
          Replying to @ow @jack

          It’s easy to demand changebut I see very few actual proposals. Editing tweets is in fact the only one I’ve seen, and it’s incredibly dumb. Someone could edit a 50k-liked tweet to say something terrible.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21
          Replying to @jcrichman @jack

          I can think of hundreds without even bringing up editing tweets, which should also happen but isn't necessary

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Jeffrey Richman  🎃‏ @jcrichman Jul 21
          Replying to @ow @jack

          Like what?

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        6. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21
          Replying to @jcrichman @jack

          IDK, how about letting me share a tweet with my friends, on a specific list, instead of the entire world? Or disabling replies to a thread like this one?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Shivi‏ @ShiviMaruthap Jul 21
          Replying to @ow @jcrichman @jack

          Interesting. 1 - Sorta FBish. Wonder how such a tweet will appear on my timeline (maybe a tag to qualify *public vs *shared with me and 120 others). 2 - fair ask for standalone tweets(announcements). @jack

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Shivi‏ @ShiviMaruthap Jul 21
          Replying to @ShiviMaruthap @ow and

          2 - this thread is not a good example as you are directly referencing an ongoing conversation. Not fair to expect to have the last word.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Legal Investor‏ @Legal_Investor Jul 21
          Replying to @jack @ow

          In Jack and the Twitter team's defense, they pushed through a ranked timeline and longer tweets in the face of steep criticism. These tough decisions resulted in a better experience for many users and improved metrics.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Owen Williams  ⚡‏Verified account @ow Jul 21
          Replying to @Legal_Investor @jack

          I do agree with you here - despite the haters the algorithm here has been a net positive that makes me use this thing more ❤️

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetzdurchsetzer‏ @Netzdenunziant Jul 21
          Replying to @jack @ow

          Do you think shadow banning is an ethical method to silence people? And do you think it is okay to only censor right-wing accounts, that never violated any rules, based on guilt by association?

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        1. Nate Gorby‏ @nategorby Jul 21
          Replying to @jack

          Owen likes to bitch about EVERYTHING. Keep up the good work, Jack.

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        1. Thushari Jay  🕯‏ @thusharijaya Jul 21
          Replying to @jack

          👍dont know if uv read Peter F Drucker-if not i recommend his book list -many ideas still hold tru 2daypic.twitter.com/Tzkw0S3OLN

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        1. wherenthehellyoubeen‏ @RaymondLoretto Jul 21
          Replying to @jack @ow

          Back to 140? That was fun and challenging.

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        2. dl willson‏ @im2b Jul 21
          Replying to @jack @ow

          I think people need to remember historically town squares run the gamut. Removing hate and violence is one thing. Removing yelling, insults and cursing never helped the oppressed when King GeorgeIII did it, or Mississippi did it to the “rude/offensive/uncivil minorities”... etc.

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        3. dl willson‏ @im2b Jul 21
          Replying to @im2b @jack @ow

          Angry uncomfortable town squares w/mobs & seething anger are the essence, founding & advancement of America. There has always been angry violent evil mobs too... but town squares at some point have to judge the ethics of the anger... of each argument. Rudeness is not violence.

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