I guess it's why those things were cited in that USENIX paper. Oh wait...
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My ability to get upset at academics not citing extraacademic sources properly was exhausted ca. 2008, so kudos to you for still finding the energy to care.
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Replying to @halvarflake @grsecurity and
Remember that majority of reviewers on academic committees were not yet doing security in 2008 (20% growth rate), and nobody in academia has time to read history.
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Replying to @halvarflake @grsecurity and
And it’s shute documented not to mention academia often only requires citing peer reviewed publications
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Replying to @anders_fogh @grsecurity and
Well, phrack is peer reviewed. But it has to be a peer-reviewed "academic" publication.
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Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and
Point is: A lot of anger comes from thinking that modern academia is about finding truth & doing proper credit assignment. My anger certainly came from that.
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Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and
Some few people do this, but in the majority you get what your incentive structures dictate.
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Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and
I think it is useful & necessary to remind people of citing prior work; but like trying to get people to ship more secure software, it is a pretty thankless job, and expect to be disappointed. I certainly was :-)
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Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and
So perhaps the thing to do is: Take my "nobody has forgotten" and amend it to "nobody that matters has forgotten".
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Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and
In a decade, I'm the only one I know of that's cited it (twice, once in 2013 and now). What evidence is your view based on? Can you show me anyone else at all that's pointed it out? If not, how can you assume everyone magically knows, or hasn't forgotten?
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What about [31] in http://vexillium.org/dl.php?bochspwn.pdf …?
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Replying to @j00ru @halvarflake and
Digging into it more, I think your paper's where I first saw those things cited actually.
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and to be more explicit, that I only mentioned those two references that same day after reading your paper, which I said at the time was "well referenced"
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