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    1. grsecurity‏ @grsecurity Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @_argp @tqbf

      I guess it's why those things were cited in that USENIX paper. Oh wait...

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @grsecurity @_argp @tqbf

      My ability to get upset at academics not citing extraacademic sources properly was exhausted ca. 2008, so kudos to you for still finding the energy to care.

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    3. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @grsecurity and

      Remember that majority of reviewers on academic committees were not yet doing security in 2008 (20% growth rate), and nobody in academia has time to read history.

      4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Anders Fogh‏ @anders_fogh Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @grsecurity and

      And it’s shute documented not to mention academia often only requires citing peer reviewed publications

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @anders_fogh @grsecurity and

      Well, phrack is peer reviewed. But it has to be a peer-reviewed "academic" publication.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and

      Point is: A lot of anger comes from thinking that modern academia is about finding truth & doing proper credit assignment. My anger certainly came from that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and

      Some few people do this, but in the majority you get what your incentive structures dictate.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and

      I think it is useful & necessary to remind people of citing prior work; but like trying to get people to ship more secure software, it is a pretty thankless job, and expect to be disappointed. I certainly was :-)

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and

      So perhaps the thing to do is: Take my "nobody has forgotten" and amend it to "nobody that matters has forgotten".

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. grsecurity‏ @grsecurity Jun 9
      Replying to @halvarflake @anders_fogh and

      In a decade, I'm the only one I know of that's cited it (twice, once in 2013 and now). What evidence is your view based on? Can you show me anyone else at all that's pointed it out? If not, how can you assume everyone magically knows, or hasn't forgotten?

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      j00ru//vx‏ @j00ru Jun 9
      Replying to @grsecurity @halvarflake and

      What about [31] in http://vexillium.org/dl.php?bochspwn.pdf …?

      3:12 PM - 9 Jun 2018
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        2. grsecurity‏ @grsecurity Jun 9
          Replying to @j00ru @halvarflake and

          Digging into it more, I think your paper's where I first saw those things cited actually.

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        3. grsecurity‏ @grsecurity Jun 9
          Replying to @grsecurity @j00ru and

          and to be more explicit, that I only mentioned those two references that same day after reading your paper, which I said at the time was "well referenced"

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