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    Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

    We've concentrated on the paleo diet critique of modern food w/o fully understanding what paleo lifestyle says about our pathologies.

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    • Paleo Diet Damien Buckley Hunter Gather Co Baldur Bjarnason Ian Welsh Dartigen Robot Pliers
    3:39 AM - 4 Jan 2016
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    1. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      The point isn't to go back to Paleo, it is to get an idea of what the healthy boundary conditions for human life are.

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    2. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      About how much did we work? How did we deal with kin and friendship? How did we sleep, play, etc?

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    3. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      We don't need an exact copy, but we can say that when 20 hours work was paleo normal 40 paid + unpaid hours = crazy & pathological.

      0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      1. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        You can note that humans spent time in close knit groups where they knew everyone and note that we don't.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      2. Rev.Paperboy ‏@revpaperboy Jan 4

        @iwelsh Golly, what ARE the odds? “Blah, blah, security, blah blah, sorry for inconvenience, blah blah, brown people=terrorists blah, blah”

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      3. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        @revpaperboy that's part of the problem, yeah.

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      1. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        You can note that humans grew up, yeah, sorry, being raised by the band, not a nuclear family. Nuclear families = pathological.

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      1. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        But school, as we do it, is clearly pathological too. Children were raised by people they knew and would know all their lives.

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      2. Rev.Paperboy ‏@revpaperboy Jan 4

        @iwelsh and thus were raised to be deeply suspicious of ‘the other’ -anyone outside the circle that raised them was the enemy. We’ve evolved

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      3. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        @revpaperboy we have? The evolution was social, mostly religious. It is piled on top.

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      4. Rev.Paperboy ‏@revpaperboy Jan 4

        @iwelsh was being a little sarcastic. We’ve evolved socially in that ‘band” is bigger, but often just as restrictive - church, block, gang

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      5. Rev.Paperboy ‏@revpaperboy Jan 4

        @iwelsh going slightly larger: town, region, ethnicity, race, religion, nationality

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      6. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

        @revpaperboy and that's all fictive! Fortunate that humans love symbols so much. Or, maybe not...

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      7. Rev.Paperboy ‏@revpaperboy Jan 4

        @iwelsh We are the animal that sees patterns and symbols

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    4. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      Humans have drives and needs, and huge plasticity in meeting them. But not all working solutions (like ours) are healthy/happy solutions.

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    5. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      Almost all of this is driven by an inability to handle surplus and violence beyond the band/tribe level.

      0 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    6. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      Humans cannot handle surplus because humans cannot handle much inequality. We are wired for equality.

      0 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    7. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      Inequality is HARD to establish. But once established it is hard to break, because most humans accept only social proof.

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    8. Ian Welsh ‏@iwelsh Jan 4

      Put another way, to humans, how it is is how it's always been and how it should be. Once inequality established, getting rid of it is HARD.

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