“having kids” is a thing soooo frequently espoused by men in tech as the best thing that ever happened to them lmfao 35% of pregnant women develop hemorrhoids and 90% of them literally tear their fuckin vaginas open during birth but tell me abt how ur kid taught u to value family
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As a parent I find this a weird take. My guess is that the vast majority (i.e. 99%) of mothers also say that children are the best thing. Pregnancy and birth is 40 wks + 48 hours. Parenthood is for decades. My wife barely remembers the pregnancy/birth times.
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Replying to @omarismail @amyngyn
ofc mothers are glad they had their kids but how many would describe them as a "life hack"? how many men are risking permanent bodily damage for those kids? re: decades of parenthood, how many men are cooking for their kids, remembering their friends, picking them up from school?
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how many women sacrificed careers for those kids while their partners didn't? how many of these men who talk about how great kids are didn't give a single shit about women or mothers at work before it became personal? just a total lack of self awareness here jesus christ
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Total facepalm. Ugly truth: most couples out there are balanced and actually share duties. Not 1920 anymore. And yes, men have all rights to claim joy from fatherhood. You have too much spare energies to waste judging others.
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Replying to @jnardiello @isosteph and
This is simply not factual according to all the research: domestic labour is still wildly unequal. Eghttp://theconversation.com/why-we-still-struggle-with-work-home-conflict-in-women-and-men-112698 …
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Replying to @hypatiadotca @isosteph and
Not claiming that there are no issues - there are many, starting with maternity leave and career. Especially in the US. In Europe things are slightly better, far from perfect. Yet original message is a brutal generalization.
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Replying to @jnardiello @isosteph and
It is easy to dismiss it as a generalization when doing so lets you refuse to see how it advantages you.
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Replying to @hypatiadotca @isosteph and
The generalization is condemning men (like... normal people, not necessarily abusive partners or something) for expressing love for their kids, and it’s unnecessary. Implicit advantage is a thing. I’m Not dismissing actual problems and challenges women face on a daily basis.
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Replying to @jnardiello @hypatiadotca and
it’s not about expressing love for their kids it’s fucking great that men do that. it’s about flexing “having kids” as a cool life hack they did to up their happiness when their partners are often shouldering disproportionate pain & sacrifice & work
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yeah parenting is more equal than it used to be but these are often the same men who talk about working 80 hour workweeks — who do you think is taking care of their kids during all that time like come on dude
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Replying to @isosteph @jnardiello and
Exactly. Jacopo- re-read the tweet Steph dunked on; it’s not expressing love, it’s treating kids as a fucking weird instrumentalist productivity tool. Deeply wack.
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Replying to @hypatiadotca @isosteph and
I agree those guys are a shame. But in our company I know a lot people were both parents work equal time and spend same effort with the kids. And it looks like this is a persisting trend here in Europe/Germany. But for sure I don't know anything about what's fucked up in the US
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