this is........not a good take responding to a reductive statement with an even more reductive statement accomplishes nothing and it’s disconcerting to see this coming from ppl you look up tohttps://twitter.com/patio11/status/1070874040619819009 …
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i think “scandals happen anyways” and “non engineers also suck” are both flimsy arguments, and i don’t agree w/ the default tendency of tech ppl to judge the impact of complex social systems like education by simple quantifiables like scandals prevented or dollars earned
1. at baseline, other eng professions have ethics reqs for a reason. eng is a field where the external impact created per individual worker is big + lasting, and that not being ingrained in the tech mindset is part of why all the software around us is such garbage
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2. broader point but why are ppl so against humanities/stem cross-reqs!! taking classes where you’re forced to think differently & work w/ppl who think differently and care about diff things makes you a) better at whatever you do and b) less of a sociopath
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3. i’d argue the dragonfly/maven stuff happened mainly bc china + US gov are easy antagonists. what about data issues or sketchy business models or just like, shitty code that makes people’s lives harder? fb engs have great job security and are still there and it’s still a mess
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